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Rear Arches Help

#1 User is offline   fefu17 

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  Posted 08 October 2009 - 11:39 AM

Hi everyone,
after noticing a couple of little bubbles on the passenger side rear arch of my ford puma; I decided to have a look and today, this is what I found after removing tons of fibreglass.

As far as I know, they don't do the rear arches for the ford puma. What can I do?

Thanks

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 11:53 AM

Cut a replacement panel from a Puma with good arches (unlikely)
Buy a replacement quarter panel and cut out the bit you need (expensive)
Find a good body repairer who can make a replacement section by hand.
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Posted 08 October 2009 - 12:15 PM

heya pal, had this problem on my 1st 2 pumas, a decent body repair shop should be able to sort it by welding new material in. but unfortuantly this is temporary as theere is no real cure for this due to the stupid carpet inner arches holding water, and the arches are rolled therefore creating a pocket to hold moisture...
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:36 AM

When you do get them repaired make sure you (Or they) treat the arches to a decent coat of ???? (What the heck is it called ??)

The stuff that prevents rust coming and........ oh yeah got it... WAXOYL.... lol

its 4.36am and i need some sleep....

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 05:08 PM

View PostFlashBastd, on 08 October 2009 - 11:53 AM, said:

Buy a replacement quarter panel and cut out the bit you need (expensive)



can you still buy them brand new ?
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 06:25 PM

I believe Pumabuild had all the last genuine new Puma body panels, not sure though!
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 06:54 PM

does that mean they are no longer availible ?
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Posted 10 October 2009 - 01:12 PM

Hi guys,
I had it repaired by my panel beater. I tried to upload photos but I think they're too big. He used a second hand peugeot 206 driver's side front wing which appearently has exactly the same arch. In addition, it's galvanised metal.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 01:19 PM

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 04:15 PM

Looking good, there are quite a few peugeot 206 driver's side front wings on ebay for anything from £26 plus postage up.

Can I ask was the peugeot front wing a drivers side one to replace a drivers side rear puma wing ? Want to make sure before I buy one.

Did your panel beater have to bend the peugeot wing much to make it fir to the puma wing ?

I presume he/she mig welded it on and grinded it down ready for filling and finally painting.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 06:53 PM

welding in a new piece means that you're starting with new sound metal. If it's properly prepped & treated then it should remain rust free. Of course the new bit will still be subject to wear & tear, stone chips etc. The finished paintwork will need to be well looked after to help prevent new rust taking hold
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Posted 10 October 2009 - 07:08 PM

Looks promising, will be great to see the final finish too please.
Hope you don;t mind I moved your image to the rust section as too interesting to get deleted in time :)
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Posted 10 October 2009 - 07:51 PM

View Postpumanurse, on 10 October 2009 - 06:53 PM, said:

welding in a new piece means that you're starting with new sound metal. If it's properly prepped & treated then it should remain rust free. Of course the new bit will still be subject to wear & tear, stone chips etc. The finished paintwork will need to be well looked after to help prevent new rust taking hold


doesn't last forever it's not a permanant fix
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Posted 10 October 2009 - 08:00 PM

Nothing lasts for ever, but having been down the road of much rust eradication I can vouch that cutting out and letting in new good quality treated/protected metal does work.

If you don't believe me, come and look at my car one day.



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Posted 10 October 2009 - 08:05 PM

View PostJHT1888, on 10 October 2009 - 07:51 PM, said:

doesn't last forever it's not a permanant fix


It should if it is done properly!!!!
In that case replacing the complete rear quarter is not a permanent fix either, potentially the new arch could rust, get damaged by stone chips etc in the same way.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 08:21 PM

Peugeot Wing:

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 08:48 PM

View PostJHT1888, on 10 October 2009 - 08:20 PM, said:


@zedder

what you say is totally bizarre... "I think welding a new piece of metal to another, cleaned and rust-free piece of metal is as permanent fix as it gets. " and then you go onto say just buy a new car once rust comes through lol what astupid thing to say


If only a small part of the arch is rusted, isn´t it an overkill to replace the whole quarter panel? I would not do it. If partial replacement and welding is done properly and seam is treated with lead it should be "permanent". I guess rust will appear on other places before this fixed part of the car is a problem again.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 09:15 PM

There is a way that we can all post our own opinions without making then pointed/personal.
Please do this.

The rust on the rear arch is not solely to do with what happens on the outside.
There is a design implication on the rear arch that has a heavy hand in the rust appearing I understand.
It would seem that depending on a car's life/condition and I expect build differences/tolerances, as to whether rust comes through or not and how early it is coming through.

If you have no rust showing now externally I bet it is there internally.
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Posted 10 October 2009 - 09:58 PM

Mmmm Pug 206 arches, now that IS interesting. Cant wait to see the finished article.

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 07:32 AM

View Postfefu17, on 10 October 2009 - 01:19 PM, said:

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When it's finished will you post a another picture, a little further away so that the whole arch can be seen?
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