[Leighton]

I discovered a company called cnc heads while looking at tuning options for the frp. I've since emailed them and in return have quoted an estimate power output of 195bhp correct to within 1bhp. To achieve this, a cnc ported and gas flowed head would be required along with there cams and dreamscience.

That seems a good output, can this be true?

[Big Boy Al]

dunno but if it is ill be joining you with a purchase

[nath]

what was the quote they gave you for that??????

[Leighton]

So far they have given me a price on the dreamscience fitted and mapped - £550. They're giving me price on the rest tomorrow. Seems good!

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Here is the site, plus a print out of the CFM readings. The head produces Inlet 137.2 CFM, Exhaust 119.2 CFM compared to Pumabuilds Head Inlet 131.4 CFM, Exhaust 119.2 CFM.

This post has been edited by Leighton: 25 April 2007 - 06:36 PM

[nath]

your looking at £1200 roughly

[Big Boy Al]

id definately pay upto 2k for 190 bhp

keep me posted mate as ill be very interested in this.

do they know its for the frp with different inlet/outlet etc??

[Leighton]

id definately pay upto 2k for 190 bhp

keep me posted mate as ill be very interested in this.

do they know its for the frp with different inlet/outlet etc??

Yeah i've already told them, if you was to do it to a normal 1.7 they said all the mods that the frp has on the inlet and exhaust manifold would be required to achieve as good of a result! so guess by having an FRP we've saved on certain things

[Big Boy Al]

brilliant news looks like we might have 190 bhp soon then.

hello mr bank manager can i have another loan

and maybe another one for new drive shafts

wonder if it would still tickover ok as some modified engines run like crap but normally with race cams

[Leighton]

Sounds very good though! even with dreamscience.

I would of thought that the driveshafts should withstand an extra 40ish bhp? or am i kidding myself

[eldoodarino]

i'll watch this thread with interest...

who's gona be the ginea pig then...

[Leighton]

Just had another email of them -

it costs labour £400 +vat to fit the head and set the cams up
we need the car 3 -4 days torque is up 15%

So i make it 550 for dreamscience and map
400 for labour
750 for head
297 for VAT (roughly)

Total - £1997

He didnt mention the if the cams came with the head or if they was extra??

What do you recon?

[Big Boy Al]

think they will be extra.

i am very very interested in this but just want to know what the cams are like as i dont want the car running like a bag of pooe on tickover for when stuck in traffic etc.

[Leighton]

think they will be extra.

i am very very interested in this but just want to know what the cams are like as i dont want the car running like a bag of pooe on tickover for when stuck in traffic etc.

Me too, but i cant find a price on there site? im 170 miles away from them, are you any closer? be a good idea to check them out. Although they do seem very professional from the site.

I've read on the ffoc site (that the missus is a member of) several members on there have had the cnc treatment on there st170's all of which broke well in to the 210 - 220bhp mark. So they do work! One member did report unsteady idle due to the cams but sounded great because of this??

[Mark Evans]

This sounds to good to be true.....just what i'm looking for....Theres an artical in the new fast ford mag(june), where these guys get 200 bhp for a fiesta st engine, with a head, cams, induction kit and dream science remap.....with dyno graphs to prove........
I to will be watching this with interest...if its true, then i'll be on the phone to them....

[ALAN at PUMABUILD]

This is the same head as what warren had on his car. You will need a head a set of cams and dreamscience but i guess cost would be closer to £3,000 buy the time all parts are fitted.

Warrens head is for sale and it has the cams and is all shimed up ready to go. (£1,000)

[cheshiresport]

Cue massive stampede to Alans door

[cj_fab]

ah the wonders of spending money on an engine

[Leighton]

Heres an update of the total price-

'hi leighton
prices for us doing the work
cnc head £750
cams £400
lab fit £400
dream science fitted and mapped £550
total £2100 +vat fitted
it will idle and be smooth through the rev range
cheers ric'

Not that bad i guess

[clayton]

is anyone seriously considering getting this done??? if so you should start up your own thread so we can all follow it

were are they based anyway?