Work On #246 - Project 2010
#1
Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:09 PM
Mike brought his car to me to strip off the underside and do a 'corrosion job' and coating on the underneath...
well, it has now turned into a bit a summer mission as a few things have cropped up... so i thought it deserved it's own 2010 project thread...
Firstly...
jack up the car nice and high and go and buy an extra set of axle stands..lol
not every day you see a two FRP shot like this one...
Mike did ask if i could give the rear calipers a look at too and a lick of paint... this is where the fun begain...
the discs on both sides of the rear only had half the pad on them so i suspected straight away that something was up with the mounting arm of the caliper...
as it turns out, one was completly seized on one side and the other side had LOADS of play in it... quick dash onto Ebay and wa lucky to find someone selling re-manufactured ones....save spending £150 on two new ones..eek
Mike had already had bigger spacers fitted to the back...unfortunatly the guy that did these slightly butchered everthing he touched as when i dug deeper and removed the hubs... it was clear there were no seals at the back of the spindle and so the bearings are heavily spoilt with muck and rust
So now we're into new spindles, bearings and a couple of ABS tone washers too....
I was going to replace the handbrake too...but after removing it, it seemed pretty free on both sides...
Over to the exhaust....
The flange on the Miltek manifold is so wonky it's untrue... makes my new Janspeed one look straight..lol so the joint on the O-ring is very cok-eyed ...god knows how it sealed.. ...one of the bolts snapped on removal.. that was fun today.. also, at the back box... another bolt just wouldn't make it back all the way through the thread and broke off... at least with this one, you can put the center section in a vice and get a good hand on it to drill it out....so no big deal on this one...
i tapped off the crusty collections of rust with a toffee hammer and then used some Hydrate-80 rust converter on various parts, and then touched it up with some paint.... should keep it sweet for another year or two...
After dismantling the exhaust and heatseilds etc...
i sprayed the whole underneath in GUNK... and jet washed the hell out of the underneath... i was absolutly soaked afterwards...and stank of Gunk too...lol what a sight!... came up nice and clean tho....
Mike had already done a coating in the spare wheel area... trying to scrape this off and expose the rust was a nightmare... got all in my hair and eyes...lol
Over then to exposing the rust elsewhere.... and then applying the Hydrate-80 to it...
Next day..
sheet the drive down with plastic.... put on my shittiest rags..fask mask on and cap...lol
time to spray the Shultz Coating...
Have managed to re-fit the exhaust today...still not happy with the joint at the manifold might even use a longer standard bolt with the springs and just use a nut at the back of the mani..? you can see on this picture here...iv'e put a new red rubber hanger on and it's stretched to hell because the manifold joint is just not straight enough.... i might have a go at bending the hanger tomorrow and rebolting it... why can't people copy things accuratly...grrr..
managed to center the back box nicely, as it was banging the bumper before... oh, and WTF was that tape that was glued all over the tape pipe... took some serious patience to get that off....looking nice now tho...
More tomorrow....
Chris
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#2
Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:30 PM
Did you spray sommit in all the holes you could poke a nozzle into from the underside?
If you have the time then the rear beam if dropped will most likely expose rust contact points too. Mine did. Hydrate 80 on mine and then Dymax UB and then the beam was refitted.
#3
Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:43 PM
happy-kat, on 20 July 2010 - 09:30 PM, said:
yep, pretty tierd...
oh and just to finish the day off...decided to re-seal the rocker gasget too, as this was weeping quite a bit...
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#4
Posted 21 July 2010 - 06:52 AM
The tape on the exhaust is my fault, i taped up the tail pipe when i was painting the exhaust but forgot to take it off before it was fitted again! I thought i got most of it off and that the rest would just burn away or something. Obviously not!
loving the work mate, will keep checking here for updates. glad the car is finally getting sorted by someone thar really knows what they are doing and that i can trust.
cant thankyou enough mate
cheers
Mike
#5
Posted 21 July 2010 - 07:41 AM
I'm getting someone to turn me a steel bar to press out the bearings next....soon as that arrives (friday i hope) i can rebuild the back hubs and brakes.... Iv'e done a nice finish on the splash sheilds and spindles... also, the guy is making me up another nylon block so i can sit it on top of the ABS tone ring and kock it down without touching the teeth and spoiling the coating... at £21 a pop now don't want to spoil it... lol..
More soon..
gona have an easier day today...
Chris
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#6
Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:36 AM
#8
Posted 21 July 2010 - 04:17 PM
Poor mike..hope he's likes Netto beans for a while...
I estimated beforehand the undersealing work incl. strip down, degrease and pressure wash...and re-fitting the exhaust and heat sheilds etc etc at around £150ish...
that gives you an idea of the basic cost of the coating...
Chris
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#9
Posted 21 July 2010 - 10:45 PM
#11
Posted 22 July 2010 - 05:41 PM
zara014, on 22 July 2010 - 09:00 AM, said:
no probs...
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#12
Posted 23 July 2010 - 09:10 PM
Finally got the rear wheel bearings in today..god what a faf!...
The bits i ordered from the engineer came nice and early...took the custom made bar to the press... but it was pretty obvious my 'DIY wooden bed' in the press just wasn't going to take the pressure to get these out... (the press was bought 2nd hand a while back now)...
so down to Machine mart to buy the proper steel bed the press has been missing...got back, all eager to crack on..only to then discover it was the wrong part..in fact completly the wrong part..lol...was so eager to get back didn't scrutinise the measurments whilst i was there... ... so back a second time, and the parts guy (with a little help) managed to find the right bit of kit for me...
Back to the garage again... put the custom made steel bar in the hub and started pumping...and pumping... and a bit more...lol the bearing didn't budge till i hit like 9ton of pressure...
here you can see it all ready to go with bar inserted... notice the bar is nicely made so iv'e got loads of length to press deep into the hub to pop them out... then a thicker section made 0.2mm thinner than the outer casing of the bearing so that pushing the nw one in is nice and controlled...
After a quick shotblast of the hub and clean down, so that all the machined areas are nice and clean....here is the new bearing ready to go in....
here's how precisly the bar fits over the bearing...
now to re-install the circlip... damm these are strong circlips..
Now over to the ABS tone washer.... i had a Nylon block made up to make a very precise fit over the outside of the ring so that when pressed down on to the hub..no damage to the bumps or coating would happen...
I think when i discussed this over the phone we must have had slight crossed wires as the guy has made them .5mm smaller than i asked... so the tone wheel is quite a tight fit into the Nylon block... but actually when used with the press and some grease applied inside the nylon, the block is easily enough tapped off the ring....and makes a pukka job.... here's a piccy of me knocking it down with a mallet....which proved tricky actually....
I just don't see you putting this tone ring on accuratly without damaging it by any other way...? how have other people done it... smack it with a block of wood..lol
Perfect..
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#13
Posted 23 July 2010 - 09:37 PM
eldoodarino, on 23 July 2010 - 09:10 PM, said:
I just don't see you putting this tone ring on accuratly without damaging it by any other way...? how have other people done it... smack it with a block of wood..lol
Mine went on fine with a flat piece of softwood and a mallet.
Why didn't you use your press on the nylon block, rather than a mallet?
The Haynes Fiesta Manual (3397) can answer a lot of your questions.
#14
Posted 23 July 2010 - 09:45 PM
What happened to my lovely coating of paint on them? Only joking it was only a crappy coat of hamerite to get them looking abit cleaner, lol
keep up the good work
hope your not too sick of my car yet!
#15
Posted 24 July 2010 - 05:24 PM
YOG, on 23 July 2010 - 09:37 PM, said:
Why didn't you use your press on the nylon block, rather than a mallet?
i did...
hammering down tended to knock down one side at a time....lob-sided slightly....
much smoother all round with the press....
also, much nicer to grip the tone ring round the sides rather than 'wack down' on top.... keeps the coating and shape perfect..
as i said, at £21 a pop now...you don't want be binning any..
Chris
mikecat, on 23 July 2010 - 09:45 PM, said:
they don't look like that now...
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#16
Posted 24 July 2010 - 08:37 PM
#17
Posted 25 July 2010 - 08:48 PM
All sorted now...
next little update...
Hubs, splash guards and spindles on today...oh, and the stupid ABS ...
wasted so much time faffing around with the ABS it was crazy... you would think with BRAND NEW parts everything would just bolt up and job done!..WRONG!..
The drivers side hub, when bolted up collided with the sensor and put a little nick in it, and wouldn't spind round properly...
so then had to find somthing to place in front of the sensor mount to space it back slightly... not the easiest of things to do. as it need to be around 1mm,small and non corroding... won't divulge what i shoved in there...we'll see if it works tomorrow maybe....
Painted up the splash sheilds in a nice 2k satin finish on the back...
was surprised also how tricky the hubs were to pull on and off.. The bearing seems to be in halfs in the hub and it seems to 'catch'.... a
The bolts behind the spacers are an absolute pain...because the damper was in the way, it seem like i was using a different size bar and ratchet for every nut...
all good in the end... fingers are crossed the ABS works tomorrow...
Chris
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#18
Posted 26 July 2010 - 09:35 AM
Bet Mike can't wait to get it back!!
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#20
Posted 26 July 2010 - 02:42 PM
I must find some more work for you to do on mine, hehe!
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