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FRP a luxury only few can afford?

#1 User is offline   rachelisadog 

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 07:31 PM

The more I read about the FRP, and recent problems many have had, the more I am concerned about it, and the well-being of the owner's finances. :shock:

Many seem to be suffering with quite expensive problems. Given their exclusivity, is it a price worth paying. I am not convinced.....

Furthermore, given the limited dealer knowledge many have spoken of, and their problems with parts, (enter the room now Vas :wink: ), I am glad I only have a peasant Puma at times ja_bebe.gif

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 07:35 PM

I know what you mean, I mean, as long as you look after it and get a good one in the first place, then I think it will be fine. The only bit that I am concerned is the lack of dealer knowledge, it's a right pain. Unless Pumabuild build an Essex branch. cool2.gif Thrashing it the whole time, as with any car will ruin it. You just gotta treat it right.
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Posted 06 September 2004 - 07:36 PM

..hmmm...you make some valid if contentious points Neil...one does wonder if Vas's problems are the tip of the iceberg ja_stupid.gif

Perhaps I got out when the going was good...I hope I'm wrong :roll:

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 07:42 PM

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..contentious..
Moi? Quelle surprise :wink:

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Perhaps I got out when the going was good...I hope I'm wrong :roll: Nic ex381

I reckon you did young man.
Let's face it, they are getting old, and many have been abused and not correctly maintained, by no means (always) the fault of the owner, just poor servicing and knowledge of such a specialist car. Shame :roll:

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 07:44 PM

Its a luxury I can't afford, anymore....I'm open to any offers.....
BACK ON THE ROAD

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 07:46 PM

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Its a luxury I can't afford, anymore....I'm open to any offers.....

You might wanna put that banger in the for sale section then. :wink:
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Posted 06 September 2004 - 07:51 PM

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Its a luxury I can't afford, anymore....I'm open to any offers.....


Really :?: :shock: :shock:

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 07:54 PM

...although I miss 381, throwing thousands at her without seeing much in return is kinda depressing sad.gif

at least spending money on the FRS improves the car-and how :!: 8)

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 07:56 PM

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...although I miss 381, throwing thousands at her without seeing much in return is kinda depressing sad.gif
Sounds like you got out though before the "crash" so to speak :idea:

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at least spending money on the FRS improves the car-and how :!: 8)
In the words of the comic genius, Frank Bough, "nice, nice" 8)

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 08:04 PM

Hi guys....I'm here now!!! The FRP is one of the 7 wonders of the world!!!
Even though I've got a problem at the moment,I STILL stand by the FRP!!
Yes, It has it's problems, but they can be sorted. Things would need to be a lot worse than a dodgy exhaust to make me give up on the FaRPy.

I think it's the nicest car Ford have ever made,I dont care if some people ((You know who you are) try and tell me that an Escort Cossie, or FRS are better made or faster.
both those cars are based on Family hatchbacks, which to me have no style. Even though I love Escorts,doesn't mean I can call them a 'Slick looking car.
Yes, the FRP needs a lot of looking after, but it IS an enthusiasts car like the original brochure said :wink: It does cost money to look after aswell, but what doesn't :roll: . But it's worth it to have a fantastic car that people stare at in the street even though its 4 years old. You don't hear Porsche owners complaining that they cost a lot. :wink:
Like with any car,if you buy a good one it will help you save future costs. Thats why I bought one that had some warranty left, must have saved me £1000 at least

I am a champion of the FRP, and I'm not giving up anytime soon :wink: :wink: :rock: :rock:
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Posted 06 September 2004 - 08:06 PM

P.S I'm not at all rich BTW. Even though some keep telling me I am ja_bebe.gif ja_bebe.gif
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Posted 06 September 2004 - 08:09 PM

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I think it's the nicest car Ford have ever made,I dont care if some people ((You know who you are) try and tell me that an Escort Cossie, or FRS are better made or faster.



have you been drinking Vas :?: :roll: stickpoke.gif

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 08:10 PM

Ah, welcome along Vas.
Weren't there already 7 Wonders Of The World :roll:

You say about Porsche owners not complaining, but a lot of the Farpy owners are right now, that is my point, and my reason for posting. :roll:

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 08:11 PM

I am not rich - but be persuaded to make some offer wink.gif
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Posted 06 September 2004 - 08:14 PM

It's like it because of what it is. You go on any performance car forum and you will see problems with cars much newer and more expensive than these cars. Go on the BMW forum and read about brand new M3's getting the 'death rattle' and requiring a £14k new engine at 12k miles, the VX220 forum about leaks, the TVR forum about poor interior quality. Every performance car is like it, it's the downside to having the extra performance. The only reason the standard Puma is fairly ok, is because it's a small hatchback underneath.
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Posted 06 September 2004 - 08:15 PM

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The more I read about the FRP, and recent problems many have had, the more I am concerned about it, and the well-being of the owner's finances. :shock:

Many seem to be suffering with quite expensive problems. Given their exclusivity, is it a price worth paying. I am not convinced.....

Furthermore, given the limited dealer knowledge many have spoken of, and their problems with parts, (enter the room now Vas :wink: ), I am glad I only have a peasant Puma at times ja_bebe.gif


I think critical to FRP ownership is getting stuck in with a bit of DIY and just generally pampering the car..... I wouldn't like to be completly and utterly reliant on taking the car to any service place the first time the wheel shook a bit or brakes squeeled a bit too much..... I think the FRP with this type of owner is almost un-affordable ......

I does take a little time to get used to the car...... i kerbed all my wheels for the first few months..... now have new ones since march and havn't marked them once yet... :wink: (touching wood) also just getting used to rubbing down and re-bedding the braking system every now and again will pay dividends too...... light use will have incurr all sorts of problems.... the car does need to be driven properly.... but also respected..

Personally for me, i look at other newish cars out their, and can't help but think that the FRP is a one in a million... 8) new crash safety legislations now are dictating most modern car building... with that sloping front MPV look.. sad.gif sad.gif just look at the whole bloddy ford range comp.gif When Big brother finally decides that petrol isn't an acceptable form of transport fuel anymore ... sports cars will gradually become museum exhibits..... not nice but true..... maybe not in my day, but defo for next generation.. :cry2: :cry2:

Gonna have fun in the meantime though... :yell: .....

But yeah, sorry, back on topic laugh.gif I think Vas's difficulty in getting the exhaust, yes , is an annoyance..... but let's not blow it out of proportion, i don't think it makes the car not worth having..... i'm sure the part will come in stock over the next few days, just like any other part that goes temporarily out of stock...... one of the Joys of owning a VERY limited edition car........ I aint gonna go and buy a focus just so that when my back box falls off it will be easier to replace..... :wink: stickpoke.gif

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 08:16 PM

The Puma is a small hatchback underneath :?: And roughly, % wise, how different is the FRP then to the standard :?: It is hardly a true performance car is it :roll: That is why I feel it is not worth the heartache and expense. For the TVR et. al, at least they are performance cars :wink:

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 08:21 PM

Where to start Chris biggrin.gif
I am not, by any means blowing the Vas thing out of proportion. There are others, earlier today, with Madric, (perhaps jokingly) saying he had a mortgage for it.
If it is an enthusiasts car, and you have to get down and dirty with it, to keep it running, on the cheap, then I will never get one, 'cos my hands don't do DIY, just can't :wink:
Ah well....

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 08:21 PM

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The Puma is a small hatchback underneath :?: And roughly, % wise, how different is the FRP then to the standard :?: It is hardly a true performance car is it :roll: That is why I feel it is not worth the heartache and expense. For the TVR et. al, at least they are performance cars :wink:


You are making me think Neil-Ratty's standard puma was certainly as quick and as agile as the FRP's at the Notts meet ja_stupid.gif

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Posted 06 September 2004 - 08:24 PM

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The Puma is a small hatchback underneath :?: And roughly, % wise, how different is the FRP then to the standard :?: It is hardly a true performance car is it :roll: That is why I feel it is not worth the heartache and expense. For the TVR et. al, at least they are performance cars :wink:


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