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#1
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Posted 15 March 2003 - 01:40 PM
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Posted 17 March 2003 - 09:18 AM
Will the car still pass its emissions test?
What work will need to be done to the car?
What work will need to be done to the car?
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Posted 24 April 2003 - 06:31 PM
The baseball cap bit lost me......................................
Met tony for the first time today and he seems a very level guy and easily knowledgeable enought to make this kind of power increase oops through the gas test.
Don't forget if the air / fuelling on any power level is correct it will pass, only really long duration cams will really start to endanger the gas test.
Don't forget there are Westies out there with this engine fitted and up to 200Bhp
Met tony for the first time today and he seems a very level guy and easily knowledgeable enought to make this kind of power increase oops through the gas test.
Don't forget if the air / fuelling on any power level is correct it will pass, only really long duration cams will really start to endanger the gas test.
Don't forget there are Westies out there with this engine fitted and up to 200Bhp
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Posted 25 April 2003 - 07:45 AM
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The baseball cap bit lost me......................................
Met tony for the first time today and he seems a very level guy and easily knowledgeable enought to make this kind of power increase oops through the gas test.
Don't forget if the air / fuelling on any power level is correct it will pass, only really long duration cams will really start to endanger the gas test.
Don't forget there are Westies out there with this engine fitted and up to 200Bhp
Met tony for the first time today and he seems a very level guy and easily knowledgeable enought to make this kind of power increase oops through the gas test.
Don't forget if the air / fuelling on any power level is correct it will pass, only really long duration cams will really start to endanger the gas test.
Don't forget there are Westies out there with this engine fitted and up to 200Bhp
By "engine" you mean the alloy block and head castings ? also possibly different ECU, cams, pistons, crank, rods, valves, injectors, fuel pump, throttle bodies, inlet manifold, exhaust manifold, oil pump, sump pan, cam belt (air con/PAS on a Westie?) ? Not much of your "standard" engine left now...
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Posted 25 April 2003 - 12:05 PM
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My planned 170 Bhp, will not need.............
I was talking generally not about making my car into a Westie, come on now be sensible. :shock:
I was talking generally not about making my car into a Westie, come on now be sensible. :shock:
Agreed for around 170 bhp, but to squeeze the extra 50 bhp from the same engine will require some major mods if kept in normally aspirated form ...
The sump pan by the way will have to be modified if you go dry sump which would allow you the following benefits
a) lowering the engine in the car to reduce CG - also require fabricated engine mounts,
increased oil capacity (helps reduce engine temperatures) - now you need 2 gallon dry sump oil tank and all extra pipework somewhere
c) less drag on the crank as it hasn't got to splash through a large puddle of oil in the sump therefore less BHP loss,
d) no oil surge as the dry sump pump will probably have 2 oil scavenge pipe one on either side of the case which will stop oil starvation when cornering flat out on your super sticky slick tyres.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing (Alexander Pope - 1709)
Stop being spoon fed and GOOGLE it!
Stop being spoon fed and GOOGLE it!
#6 Guest_Matt and Tiggr_*
Posted 25 April 2003 - 12:13 PM
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a) lowering the engine in the car to reduce CG - also require fabricated engine mounts,
Sooo, would you then tip the block back towards the bulkhead, cos the output shaft would have to stay in the same place.
If not, then dry sumping it would possibly raise the C of G, as the oil would end up higher than the sump it replaces, and as you say, you will actually need more oil to counter the extra pipework...
???
;-)
#7
Posted 26 April 2003 - 08:55 AM
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c) less drag on the crank as it hasn't got to splash through a large puddle of oil in the sump therefore less BHP loss,
I thought that was the whole point of maintaining correct oil level as overfilling would risk the crank 'splashing through a large puddle of oil' :shock:
It would imply very poor design that would allow this under normal circumstances :cry:
Ian
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