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1.4 To 1.7 Swap se abowe :)

#1 User is offline   CartMan 

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 06:35 PM

ok, like the tread says, is the 1.7 a direct swap for the 1.4?? I'm thinking of the wiering, and ecu. I know the lump and gearbox are a direct swap.

I may be getting a new puma in a few weeks, (still undecided) it's a 99 00 1.4, it's suposedly mint, so it's a better starting point for my frp convercion :) so I'm thinking, kick the 1.4 to the curb, and slipp my 1.7 inn, after it's gotten a nice workover :)

but again, is the wiering the same?? ie. the vct??

thnx for any ansvers :)

if all else fails, I do have a complet working donor car, so swapping everithing is not an issue, just a hassle :)
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Posted 21 September 2011 - 04:16 PM

I bought a Puma just over a year ago and whilst the log book stated a 1.4, it was advertised as a 1.7. I wrote to the DVLA and they confirmed in writing that a previous owner had seized the engine (the 1.4) and replaced it with a 1.7, so it can be done, but I can't advise you further than that, except to say it runs beautifully. Good luck. Posted Image

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 06:59 PM

thnks for your reply :) I do know it works, I have seen it to, 1.7 in fiestas and so on, I wil probably just try to swap, ans se what happens if no one knows for shure 100% if it's the same wiring loom :)
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#4 User is offline   Gijs 

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 07:14 PM

Hello

i'm doing the same at this moment just removed the damaged 1.4 engine,
after cleaner the engine bay I'm going to remover the 1.7 engine out of the donor Puma
replace when it;s out the cambelt, waterpump and clutch before placing it again

it can be done

cheers

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 08:37 PM

hi, have not done it yet, as noone can tel me for shure if I need to swap everything, but I'm thinking yes, that you have to swap the engien and the loom.

pleace let us know how your getting on, as there is little to no info on this to be found :)
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 08:57 PM

hello

yes you need to swap the loom and ecu , but not all of it only the engine part , so you also need to remove your dash





 CartMan, on 23 October 2011 - 08:37 PM, said:

hi, have not done it yet, as noone can tel me for shure if I need to swap everything, but I'm thinking yes, that you have to swap the engien and the loom.

pleace let us know how your getting on, as there is little to no info on this to be found :)


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Posted 23 October 2011 - 09:03 PM

thought so :)

anyway, the car I was going to get and do this to, has not arived yet, so.... we'l se :)
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Posted 13 November 2011 - 09:56 PM

Hello

the old broken engine has been removed now starting to strip my old puma, but having a little work space problem

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 10:44 PM

Nice bit of progress, if you have both cars together, even better. You won't be short of parts.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 12:05 PM

my first fiesta was a 1.4 and changed to 1.7. It is quite easy. You need to get the matching loom so digital clocks need digital loom and ecu and key chip, that's it. then you just replace the engine by side of the loom so that's easy.
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Posted 14 November 2011 - 01:02 PM

thx, but it's alomst the same the 1.4 doesn't have ABS my 1.7 has so it's a little more work, but i've got all parts together
now stripping my old car , remove the engine and change cambelt, clutch before fitting it into my new Puma



 volcomstone411, on 14 November 2011 - 12:05 PM, said:

my first fiesta was a 1.4 and changed to 1.7. It is quite easy. You need to get the matching loom so digital clocks need digital loom and ecu and key chip, that's it. then you just replace the engine by side of the loom so that's easy.


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Posted 14 November 2011 - 04:34 PM

abs is farely crap in the puma's anyway, have you considered scrapping it?
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Posted 15 November 2011 - 01:43 PM

i did, brakes are awesomely better without

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Posted 24 November 2017 - 09:09 PM

My puma is 1.4 and i am thinking to swap with 1.7 in the near future. Having read several posts that upgrade seems the more easy thing to do for an 1.4 upgrade. Is the above statement definite that the swap is only about" get the matching loom so digital clocks need digital loom and ecu and key chip, that's it. then you just replace the engine by side of the loom so that's easy.";

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Posted 24 November 2017 - 10:11 PM

Loom and ECU to match your current fuse box (green / white or green / white / black plugs)

Left side engine mount

Air box lid

MAF mass air flow sensor

Air intake pipe

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