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Are Milleniums Faster? and if so why?

#1 BobMonkhouse

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 03:36 PM

According to the technical data on the Parkers website the Puma Millenium does 0-60 in 8.8 seconds, whereas the normal 1.7 does it in 9.2. Does this sound right, and if so why is it faster?

Millenium
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/data-d...spx?deriv=17994

Standard 1.7
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/data-d...spx?deriv=13669

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 03:44 PM

Shouldnt think so unless Yellow is more aerodynamic!!

Maybe even slower because of the leather interior weighing more than cloth??

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 03:47 PM

lol

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 03:47 PM

becuase its yellow?

and it says the millenium (just checking the spelling

) is 1Kg heavier but faster accelleration with the same MPG, i havn't got a clue

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 04:00 PM

I think one of them should come to the Nurburgring in July and prove it :-)

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 04:00 PM

Sounds like a gauntlet Colin!

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 04:15 PM

perhaps its because the thunder, black and normal 1.7 16v were produced until 2001-2002
wereas the millenium edition was just made 99-2000

this means that parkers may be using a later 0-60 figure for the non-milly 1.7s, and as the torque limiter was upped the later on that pumas were made, the 0-60 went down.

so earlier pumas had a better 0-60, later pumas a slower 0-60 with more torque limiting.

might explain it?

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 04:17 PM

Sounds quite possible that.

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 07:55 PM

I think they are wrong......the figure of 9.? is not correct for a 1.7. Maybe a later model or something.
Besides, the figure I read of 8.7 is wrong as well........
It's actually around 8.4, but don't tell anyone, otherwise our insurance will go up!

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 07:57 PM

Only one quicker is the frp me thinks

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 08:16 PM

it's is correct really.
The earlier Puma was marginally faster, the Milly is based on a earlier Puma.
the later Puma was slower as the torque limiter was raised affecting the time a wee bit.
Also the way the 0-60 was quoted changed. Origianlly it was 0-60 then to be eu compliant so to speak it became 0-62 as it was a KMPH adjusted figure hence it wnet up to 9.2 as well.

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 08:39 PM

As one would expect, Kate is correct on this

Anyone know what a millenium is

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 08:54 PM

Mine's slow as it's had the latest ECU map loaded with the pessimistic torque limiter settings. Fatter midrange pull though.

Would the gauntlet still stand when the Milly's packing a 250BHP supercharged K20

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 08:55 PM

That would be interesting...

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 08:56 PM

that's why I spell it Milly Steve

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 05:53 PM

Ha, I always remembered the 0-62mph as being a fart under 8 seconds! I looked it up years ago before I bought my 2001 puma (brand new) and it has steadily become quicker and quicker in my mind (especially when I give stats to anyone who'll listen). It started off being 7.7 seconds, then I dropped it to 7.5 and until I read this page I was saying 7 seconds. 8.8 is ridiculously slow though. I can't tell you how dissapointing it was to read the above posts and discover that I must have been reading the spec of the FRP (and then exaggerating that)!

I just changed the nearside headlight and thought it was such a polava that I should probably change car, after finding that my car is actually a few seconds slower 0-60 than I had previously believed I am almost certainly going to do it. I should be able to trade up to a nice Y-reg Impreza. Hmm, something to think about.

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 05:58 PM

QUOTE (joey2mugs @ Jun 25 2007, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I just changed the nearside headlight and thought it was such a polava that I should probably change car, after finding that my car is actually a few seconds slower 0-60 than I had previously believed I am almost certainly going to do it. I should be able to trade up to a nice Y-reg Impreza. Hmm, something to think about.

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 06:10 PM

How is the headlight difficult? I can take both off the car, take them apart completely, rebuild them and get them back in and working in less than 20 minutes.

Then again, I can't get the sodding spare wheel out so I can't talk!

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 07:59 PM

Let me guess.. you tried to use the plastic screwdriver-lookalike-thing on the jack to lower the spare wheel cage?

They should mount a small camera in the boot that activates when you try to get the spare out. Would make awesome television. Shame i'd be on it as well though ...

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