[glover]

hi, i dont rate my 2002 puma brakes at all.
am partly considering a pumaspeed 300mm brake upgrade later on in the future.
i just wondered if any body has had it done and what they reckon to it?
i find my std brakes have no bite and im having to press the pedal way to hard imo

puma speed 300mm brake upgrade found here http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/showdetails.php?id=208

This post has been edited by glover: 01 December 2006 - 01:01 AM

[D.J]

Have you thought about doing a cossie brake conversion? They go straight onto most Fiestas (with the help of a bracket to move the caliper), don't see why they wouldn't go onto a Puma?

[glover]

not realy thought about cossie brakes i gues, i wondered if the caliper puma speed put with the 300mm kit was a good caliper i guess.
what do people rekon?
i just think my pumas std brakes are poor and want something with a lot more bite

[glover]

is nobody able to comment on the pumaspeed 300mm conversion?

[jprestidge]

Buy some decent pads - bigger discs will just help reduce fade, which isn't usually apparent on the road in a light car like the Puma anyway. Better pads can offer a greater coefficient of friction and help to reduce the possibility of fade, if you go on track.

JP

[mark_f1]

Why don't you get a conversion with better calipers, i.e 4 pots They will bit the disk alot better than the single pot calipers anyway. Also because the puma is relatively light you don't even need huge disks, as too large a disk may upset the breaking balance. Thats what I'm wanting it's just saving up the money to doing it.

[glover]

any body able to recomend some good pads then?
i dont have any problems with fade, just bite

[Andy Puma]

i didnt get pumaspeeds break upgrade but did get 300m disks on mine! helps with break fade a lot- its also worth getting decent pads.

[glover]

did they improve bite at all?

[matty]

when i upgraded my fiesta from a 1.3 to a 1.7, i just fitted EBC "turbogroove" disks and greenstuff pads, same size as the origeonals, and have found them to be excellent.

they havent improved bite, so im not sure about that, the EBC stuff is progressive, ie: if you just tap the brake, not much will happen, the more you push it, the harder it bites, and it just keeps on biting, no fade when warm even when hard braking from 100-50 mph, which is where the OE ford fiesta brakes come unstuck.

i personally think that "hair trigger" brakes are undesireable, i had a go in my mates escort gti, and almost broke my neck when stopping at some traffic lights. i would imagine its all to easey to lock up during an emergency braking event.

[cptSparko]

I have a 2000 puma (later 258mm disc model).
Had to replace the pads and badly lipped discs so went for some Mintex MCD1030 discs (not drilled or grooved or anything fancy) and some Mintex MDB2314 pads (if you have an earlier Puma with the smaller brakes you will need the MDB2060 pads).

Obviously they made an outrageous difference, really bite hard and firm even from cold. Not noticed any fade - unlike the old pads/discs I took off!

I would definitely recommend these!

[glover]

cheers, sound like the sort of thing i want

i duno whever its just mine, or all pumas but my 2002's brakes are pretty crap imo, sorry, maybe its just mine

oh by the way weres a good place to buy those mintex parts?

This post has been edited by glover: 09 December 2006 - 05:31 PM

[happy-kat]

perhaps bite is being confused with servo assistance.
the Puma brake setup is not overly servo assisted so what ever you do you need to push the pedal to get a response.

[cptSparko]

cheers, sound like the sort of thing i want

i duno whever its just mine, or all pumas but my 2002's brakes are pretty crap imo, sorry, maybe its just mine

oh by the way weres a good place to buy those mintex parts?

Got the pads and discs from this eBay shop: http://stores.ebay.co.uk/THE-MOTORIST-WAREHOUSE-01924-451277

Not sure if they have any auctions going for the exact pads/discs you need, but do a search or give them a ring. They were very helpful when I purchased mine.


Fitted them myself, took me about 4-5 hours - was being careful!

I would only recommend you do this if you feel competent :excl:
Otherwise you favourite garage should be charge you about 1hr labour to fit.

[mark_f1]

Got the pads and discs from this eBay shop: http://stores.ebay.co.uk/THE-MOTORIST-WAREHOUSE-01924-451277

Not sure if they have any auctions going for the exact pads/discs you need, but do a search or give them a ring. They were very helpful when I purchased mine.
Fitted them myself, took me about 4-5 hours - was being careful!

I would only recommend you do this if you feel competent
Otherwise you favourite garage should be charge you about 1hr labour to fit.

What did you purchase, i.e size wise and what were they off. And how much did it cost?

[Duke]

If I bought 258mm discs + pads would they swap out without any other work needed (if a garage did it).. mine has 238mm early model ones at the moment.

thanks

[Clawz]

Calipers would have to be changed due to the change in disc size, so there's playing with the brakefluid involved too.

Ontopic:
In the end it's everyones own choice, but i think 300mm is a bit overkill. Or you must be going for the looks cq the heat capacity on long trackdays. 260mm and 280mm with decent pads will allow you to lock the wheels too, so no lack of stopping power there.

Did you have a look at the 280mm ones Pumaspeed has? Will fit under the regular 15" alloys, cost a lot less, and improve the feel also

/edit: Scratch that, what happened with the price?

This post has been edited by Clawz: 11 December 2006 - 08:37 PM

[cptSparko]

What did you purchase, i.e size wise and what were they off. And how much did it cost?

I had the same problem when I was trying to sort this out!

http://www.pumapeople.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=59434&hl=

If (like me) you have a newer Puma (post 2000) with the larger 258mm calipers:
- MDB2314 pads
- MDC1030 discs

If you have an early Puma (pre 2000) with the 238mm calipers:
- MDB2060 pads
- ?? discs - check www.mintex.co.uk for the correct discs - sorry!


I have not upgraded to larger calipers or done anything fancy, just replaced the pads and discs with standard sized items.

Got everything from the ebay shop mentioned previously, cost £65.

[mad mick]

i have also been looking to upgrade my disks but only want to go to the 280 diamter units do the calipers need to be replaced or are the standard clipers sufficient? what about brake pipes as pumaspeeed do stainless pipes would it be worth it to change them aswell to give better feel? as i know they can make a difference from my bikes in the past? i would like to improve the braking without going overboard in price or work as i don't have a garage and have to do it on the road side what would you suggest?

[Clawz]

For a increase in disk size, 9 out of 10 times you need to change the calipers too.

No experiece with the rest, sorry