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#1 User is offline   boofg 

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 02:01 PM

Hello people has anyone tried a MSD Hyperpower Blaster Coil I saw it on pumaspeed. If they have what sort of difference has it made?

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 03:50 PM

iv got one.... not really something you would 'notice' but with all things like this it will help a little....

add good sparks...

add flowed maf sensor...

add good air filter....

makes the car much more fruitier to drive...




one on its own wont do much, all together & you feel the car just 'wants' to go a bit more than before...

id recommend one, esp concidering itl most likely last longer than a ford item...

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 03:58 PM

I think you will have to get

1) good spark plugs
2) magnecor leads (8.5mm)
3) induction kit
4) ignition coil

to be able to feel a big difference wink.gif they are linked to one another i believe wink.gif . Do an engine oil change and oil filter change and it will feel better wink.gif

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  Posted 03 April 2008 - 04:26 PM

QUOTE (e3silversurfer @ Apr 3 2008, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you will have to get

1) good spark plugs
2) magnecor leads (8.5mm)
3) induction kit
4) ignition coil

to be able to feel a big difference wink.gif they are linked to one another i believe wink.gif . Do an engine oil change and oil filter change and it will feel better wink.gif


1) got some NGK plugs at the mo
2) just ordered these
3) got a K&N induction kit a few months back (love the roar!)
4) MSD Hyperpower Blaster Coil?

I've been reading some previous posts about Denso Iridium plugs. Looks like they cost a bomb! Hey jacko have you got these?

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 04:54 PM

IMHO the only difference fitting these things will make over new OEM items is making the people selling them richer smile.gif

They look nicer than standard items though whenever you lift the bonnet to show people smile.gif
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 05:17 PM

QUOTE (e3silversurfer @ Apr 3 2008, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you will have to get

1) good spark plugs
2) magnecor leads (8.5mm)
3) induction kit
4) ignition coil

to be able to feel a big difference wink.gif they are linked to one another i believe wink.gif . Do an engine oil change and oil filter change and it will feel better wink.gif


arent theMagnecore leads for the standard puma supposed to be 8mm (blue) and 8.5mm (red) for the FRP ?
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 06:38 PM

Really so long as you have a reasonably well shielded HT lead with a within spec resistance it's not going to make the slightest bit of difference.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 10:44 PM

QUOTE (PumaVoodoo @ Apr 3 2008, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really so long as you have a reasonably well shielded HT lead with a within spec resistance it's not going to make the slightest bit of difference.



i agree

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 10:46 AM

hmm, for the sake of half a mm I agree, just remember reading somewhere on here that someone used the 8.5s on a 1.7 and it made the car stutter alot...
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 12:32 PM

I've got the performance coil and the magnecor 8.5mm parts today. I'm going to fit these on over the weekend. I'll let you guys know the outcome of this I'm hoping its a good one!

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 12:37 PM

Nice one - I'd be interested to see the accurately measured differences (ie not subjective differences) between the original parts and the replacement parts smile.gif

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE (amino @ Apr 4 2008, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hmm, for the sake of half a mm I agree, just remember reading somewhere on here that someone used the 8.5s on a 1.7 and it made the car stutter alot...


That'll be a faulty or incorrectly fitted lead.
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Posted 10 April 2008 - 12:54 PM

I got round to installing the coil and the leads a few days ago I can say that I've noticed a slight improvement. The improvements are the car idles a bit better now taking off from 1st gear the car seems to pull that tiny bit extra. Overall well I would say its a expensive mod!



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Posted 10 April 2008 - 04:49 PM

i got manecore leads and a accel perf coil and they gave in after a few week! back to standard it was for me!


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Posted 11 April 2008 - 09:28 AM

i have the accell coil, 8.5mm magnecor leads and denso iridium plugs and installed all at the same time.
i noticed a lot better idle running, and smother acceleration through all the gears,
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 02:11 PM

You should NEVER fit ANY aftermarket coil without first making sure that the resistance of the primary winding is the SAME as your original coil, otherwise it will result in;
1) LESS spark strength (as a consequence of the resistance being too high)
or
2) Your new coil or existing ignition module will burn out sooner or later (as a consequence of the resistance being low).

This is just keeping the subject simple, as there's much more to it than that but for most people/applications that should cover it.

In most instances, the best option is just to buy a NEW stock coil. An ignition system is just like your engine, it requires the parts to be matched, so just for the same reasons you wouldn't fit the wrong size pistons to your engine, don't fit the wrong value components to the ignition system.
There is no need to increase the spark strength on a standard engine, however if you ever fitted nitrous or a turbo, then that would be different and in those cases, the best answer is to replace the entire ignition system with a matched high performance set up rather than JUST a coil.

In the main if you achieve ANY improvement by fitting after market ignition components on a relatively stock car, then it's because the old original parts were tired and new OEM ones would have given the same result.

It could still be worth adding Magnecor leads though, because they should last longer than OEM leads.

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 02:47 PM

Hooray, someone else who recognises the fallicy of the "Every little helps" argument
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 06:07 PM

QUOTE (PumaVoodoo @ Apr 21 2008, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hooray, someone else who recognises the fallicy of the "Every little helps" argument

Yes and it's NOT my "opinion", it is FACT!!!!

As some of you may know, I've spent the last 30 years pushing the limits with nitrous injection and a key part of that has been achieving a stronger spark, because it is an ESSENTIAL ingredient on a nitrous motor.
Since there are few combinations that demand as much from an ignition system as nitrous does, it means I've had to get VERY SERIOUS about understanding spark generation, so my FACTS are supported by 30 years of hands on experience on the matter and besides that I have a BSc in electronics, albeit 30+ years out of date. dry.gif

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:29 PM

you know i saw collins engineering mk2 escort rally yesterday, with a millington diamond engine, 300+ bhp. Mental car, beats wrc easily, and also brakes diffs each rally. Beat colin mcraes rally car twice!

and neither uses fancy coils or fancy leads

just thaught i might add that to the mix
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 10:39 PM

QUOTE (volcomstone411 @ Apr 21 2008, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you know i saw collins engineering mk2 escort rally yesterday, with a millington diamond engine, 300+ bhp. Mental car, beats wrc easily, and also brakes diffs each rally. Beat colin mcraes rally car twice!

and neither uses fancy coils or fancy leads

just thaught i might add that to the mix


I bet neither uses tired old parts which are a number of years old that have seen many 1,000s of hot road miles either. wink.gif

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