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In case you ever forget....

#1 User is offline   NBSmith78 

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 06:01 PM

Drove a Mk4 Golf GT TDI (150) today, with the somewhat deluded ja_stupid.gif thought that I might replace the Puma (sorrysorrysorry).

All it served to do is remind me how good the Kat really is! Tried going round roundabouts Puma-style and thought the thing would almost roll over - it handled so badly in comparison! A shame in a way, as that diesel engine really is fantastically torquey! Not sure I can buy any other front wheel drive car again now... (hmmmm, FRP? :twisted: )

#2 User is offline   paddymc 

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 06:07 PM

that diesel engine is a great one.as quick as a gti nearly!
the engine is heavy though which is why its nose heavy and hence such bad handeling. Probley had a tendency to understeer when taking a roundbout at puma type speed.

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 08:54 PM

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 08:56 PM

Incase you ever forget how good the Puma is, I take it Clive. :wink:
Get that Golf MTM chipped, should make up for the handling. :twisted:
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Posted 08 September 2004 - 10:22 PM

No it won't. Straight line speed is no substitute for good handling unless you are into drag racing.

(And I look awful in a frock and helmet)

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Posted 08 September 2004 - 11:34 PM

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Drove a Mk4 Golf GT TDI (150) today, with the somewhat deluded ja_stupid.gif thought that I might replace the Puma (sorrysorrysorry).

All it served to do is remind me how good the Kat really is! Tried going round roundabouts Puma-style and thought the thing would almost roll over - it handled so badly in comparison! A shame in a way, as that diesel engine really is fantastically torquey! Not sure I can buy any other front wheel drive car again now... (hmmmm, FRP? :twisted: )


Ignore the body roll...had a Golf MKIV chasing me in the FRP when I first had it and wasn't yet accustomed to it, couldn't shake him off, even on some corners. No idea what the spec was but it looked standard from the front...
You should only worry when the grip from ALL 4 tyres has gone.
Try some feint steering to overcome the oversteer.

Or maybe it was the driver :?: :wink:

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Posted 09 September 2004 - 08:14 AM

Try going from a high BHP Puma to a 16 year old Diahatsu Fourtrak!!!

You then really appreciate how nimble the Kat is, and how much like Commanding a super tanker 2 tons of leaf spring 4x4 can be!

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Posted 09 September 2004 - 11:06 AM

Let hubby drive my puma on tuesday as I had been banned from driving (temporarily) and didn't fancy tuning up to a posh restaurant in his M reg fiesta. On the way back we come along a nice bendy road he drove round the first couple of curves and said "It does corner well doesn't it?" Then went on to push it round the next corner - I just looked across to see biggrin.gif
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Posted 09 September 2004 - 11:21 AM

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Try going from a high BHP Puma to a 16 year old Diahatsu Fourtrak!!!

You then really appreciate how nimble the Kat is, and how much like Commanding a super tanker 2 tons of leaf spring 4x4 can be!


I find that the Fortrak has quite 'nimble' handling as long as you don't push it too far past the body roll...
Getting the plot rolling is amusing, but once it's up to speed it's fine... but then you've got to stop it....
(Now that's another story especially with a couple of tonnes behind it....)

As you say just like a supertanker...
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Posted 09 September 2004 - 04:53 PM

Drove a mk4 gt tdi a while back as I was allowed an "exec" hire car.

It handled badly but was quick in a straight line. I also hated the totally electric accelerator as it is super light and you can easily count the time between pedal hitting the floor and the engine deciding to rev (even in low gears where you would expect quick response).

It only had 2000 miles as well and I had the clutch slipping after the 400 mile journey in it!!!!
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Posted 10 September 2004 - 02:37 AM

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 06:07 AM

Golf MkIVs handle like boats. The R32 might be OK, but even the V6 4Motion is rubbish. :sorry:

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 07:55 AM

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I also hated the totally electric accelerator as it is super light and you can easily count the time between pedal hitting the floor and the engine deciding to rev (even in low gears where you would expect quick response).


Blame emissions controls and throttle dampers mad.gif Flooring the gas from idle usually results in a 'mooo' from the engine not unlike a stoned cow.

A lot of kids will never know what's it's like to drive a carburettor'd car with excellent throttle response even from idle. Potential for poorer fuel economy is there but even my basic Sunny can lift it's skirts when the foot goes to the floor thanks to it's li'l carb :wink:

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 08:12 AM

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A lot of kids will never know what's it's like to drive a carburettor'd car with excellent throttle response even from idle. Potential for poorer fuel economy is there but even my basic Sunny can lift it's skirts when the foot goes to the floor thanks to it's li'l carb :wink:


When I first started driving I had a 998cc Mini Mayfair and christ could that thing get off the line quickly. You tap the accelerator in neutral and instantly it's revving near the red, great little car. It'd beat my Puma off the line any day. Perfect for darting through traffic.

Once you've had a Mini, everything else seems a bit heavy.

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:28 AM

Much that I like driving around in me 4x4, cant help but say Im really missing Tiggr, even with all her faults and breakdowns.

How people can sell is beyond me...

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:41 AM

What's happening with Tiggr?? Still dead on the drive?
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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:50 AM

Yup,

Although engine and gearbox are due to come out over the next week.

New engine mounts going in. Old sh1ty loom coming out.

Engine having new oil seals fitted

Fuel metering unit being sent of for recondition

New Air filter

Charge cooler being sent to be straightened (still bent after the crump this time last year

new fuel lines (as the originals have been rubbed to a slightly dangerous state cos the wrong ones were used)

New RS brain

Engine bay being cleaned.


And thats just for starters

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 10:53 AM

£££££££ :shock: £££££££

Sounds expensive

And time consuming
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Posted 10 September 2004 - 11:07 AM

She's in dry dock for most of the winter, and much of the work is labour which dad is undertaking, bless him!

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Posted 10 September 2004 - 01:10 PM

What actually went bang this time?
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