Collected My Frp This Morning Need some advice with a couple of 'niggles'
#1
Posted 04 March 2007 - 01:16 AM
Also another thing that is a little annoying, there is a heat shield rattling somewhere - How do I stop that? Do they just come loose or will I need to replace something?
I'm also going to make sure I sort out the steering rack melting issue I've been reading about, hopefully this one hasn't been too badly affected.
Otherwise all seems good, certainly likes 7000 rpm but it seems like rather alot a fuel up at those engine speeds too, so I'll be taking it a little easier from now on
Adam
#2
Posted 04 March 2007 - 08:54 AM
Once the clips are bent - the pads start to move around and rub against the disk
You can see if they are in place by looking at the calipers - if you can see 4 triangles with 'holes' around the centre of the caliper and they are all at the same height - they are OK
#3
Posted 04 March 2007 - 09:35 AM
the heat shields do come loose sometimes but they just need a new clip that pushes on, you can get them from ford - dont remove it ;-)
show us some pics of your new frp, what number is it
This post has been edited by Big Boy Al: 04 March 2007 - 09:36 AM
FRP 241 RINGMEISTER -23 LAPS = 296.7 MILES COMPLETED, MORE TO COME NEXT YEAR
#4
Posted 04 March 2007 - 11:35 AM
i wonder if the previous owner got rid because he couldn't cure it.... or just thought of the ££££ signs when hearing the noise...
i would't worry too much about it..... your more likely to get it straight after a brake service.... as the pads arn't settled in yet....
i really struggled to get rid of it a couple of years ago untill replaced my lipped discs..... no amount of caliper servicing would totally get rid if it.....
do you know what sort service hsitory the calipers have had...??
Chris
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#5
Posted 04 March 2007 - 01:47 PM
Calipers have been regularly serviced. The discs are Red.Dot and were recently skimmed by Pumabuild. The car was sitting for a week so maybe that could cause something to seize(?).
This post has been edited by wrenton: 04 March 2007 - 01:57 PM
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#6
Posted 04 March 2007 - 05:31 PM
I know that James and it's previous owners have looked after it well so it's certainly not neglect, I'm only asking on here because there's alot I don't know about them, so thaks for the help so far
Like I say it was fine on the way home and the other week when I had a ride in it, so it's either something that's just developed or something that's just come and gone - we'll see
Number 260 by the way.
#7
Posted 04 March 2007 - 06:00 PM
When touching the brakes or slowing down, the whirring slows with it? reckon it might be bearings in my case tho
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This post has been edited by cheshiresport: 04 March 2007 - 06:04 PM
#8
Posted 04 March 2007 - 07:07 PM
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#9
Posted 04 March 2007 - 07:30 PM
Calipers have been regularly serviced. The discs are Red.Dot and were recently skimmed by Pumabuild. The car was sitting for a week so maybe that could cause something to seize(?).
cool... on a side note... how did you find the red dot's in comparison to the Alcon discs.... presuming you have driven the car with the Alcons working well at some point...
did pb change the pistons or seals at any time?
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#10
Posted 04 March 2007 - 08:17 PM
did pb change the pistons or seals at any time?
I had red dot on both my FRP and was impressed. They stop very well but the one niggle is that they make a bit of noise until warm and you get a fair bit of feedback.
One bearing was changed in April 06 along with the ABS sensor apart from that, the previous owner cleaned the calipers thoroughly every month.
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#11
Posted 05 March 2007 - 12:03 AM
As for the brakes in general they're quite different to any car I've ever driven before, you do feel alot through the pedal but they certainly do the business.
#12
Posted 05 March 2007 - 02:35 PM
If it doesn't am I right in thinking this is what I am likely need?
Pumabuild.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=43_47_179&products_id=677" target="_blank">Pad retaining clip - click me!
#13
Posted 05 March 2007 - 06:23 PM
I'll show my bare arse on the M1 if that fixes it....
seriously tho... you need a caliper inspection... the obvious things are
state of caliper pistons, seals, pad rails etc...
Lipping on the discs...
Chris
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#14
Posted 05 March 2007 - 07:47 PM
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#15
Posted 05 March 2007 - 08:08 PM
Thanks all
This post has been edited by Edgey: 05 March 2007 - 08:20 PM
#16
Posted 05 March 2007 - 10:54 PM
If it doesn't am I right in thinking this is what I am likely need?
Pumabuild.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=43_47_179&products_id=677" target="_blank">Pad retaining clip - click me!
This clip stops the pads shooting out the front of the caliper - it's unlikely this is causing the symptoms you described
The OTHER, more important clips sit INSIDE the caliper and are each screwed in with a torx screw - they stop the pads dropping
You can see them either side of this picture next to the pistons (in blue - but they are metal underneath)
The problem with these clips is that when the metal touches the caliper - the caliper reacts and starts to break down - once that happens the clips bend and the pads drop and rub against the disc
At this point the calipers are trashed - even if you got new clips they would bend almost straight away - I know because I've tried it
Buy a set of set of second hand FRP calipers if this is the problem (that is what I had to do)
These clips can also be damaged if a somebody hammers the pads in place and they bend at the end (also happened to me)
AFAIK you cannot got these clips seperately from Alcon
This post has been edited by PG12: 05 March 2007 - 10:58 PM
#17
Posted 05 March 2007 - 10:57 PM
#18
Posted 05 March 2007 - 10:59 PM
It's not build up - it's corrosion...
#19
Posted 05 March 2007 - 11:00 PM
me ad chris managed to get mine out without splitting them.
just need a smallner and tox bit.
FRP 241 RINGMEISTER -23 LAPS = 296.7 MILES COMPLETED, MORE TO COME NEXT YEAR
#20
Posted 05 March 2007 - 11:01 PM
There is a guide to sorting this oxidation out on the RPOC site.