Engine Swap

#1 RobK

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Posted 13 March 2003 - 03:18 PM

Recent post by Matt on spoilers got me thinking:

"And painted Jewel Green with an engine from a different Ford"

I know Tony from PS can do the 4wd cossie job, but that involved major surgery to the floor pan, interior, bulkhead, well.... everything. What about other ford engines, especially the FWD units.... what with the current shortage of replacement engines.

Some suggestions....

FRS

Mondeo RS 2.5 V6 Zetec 24v
Mondeo 1.8 / 2.0 Zetec 16v

Not that I'm intending any of the above, but reckon would make a good discussion topic down the boozer...

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#2 Guest_Matt and Tiggr_*

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Posted 13 March 2003 - 03:50 PM

Biggest problem you are likely to encounter is if these engines use a different ECU.

IIRC the EEC V is compatable across the range of modern fords, but with tweaked internals dependent on model.

Tiggr runs with both EEC-v and EEC-IV !!! Major nightmare getting those to talk to each other.

The Zetecs should fit but you may have trouble with the V6.

Best bet is to go for something like a YBD 2.0 Cosworth if you are going to spend money buggering about with engine swaps (just remember to change the gearbox internals at the same time !!!)

One of the benefits of using an older remanufactured (by Ford) engine is if the orig engine is pre cat required emmision regulations, your car will not need a cat for its MOT (this info given to me by DVLA)[/i]

#3 BOK

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Posted 13 March 2003 - 05:12 PM

My dream Puma would be a stripped to the bone (lightweight) front-wheel drive FRP body/chassis with a lightweight well tuned Honda VTEC motor from a Civic Si.

Skittish as hell but combines the best chassis with the best motor :-)

Sorry there isn't a Ford motor currently made that would interest me...

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#4 RobK

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Posted 13 March 2003 - 05:36 PM

Would you not replace the ECU completely and use the one that comes with the new engine? Assuming you know what you are doing with the loom, don't fancy rewiring one.

Interesting pont abot the honda engine. Would cause problems with engine mountings in the shoe-horning process. You'd be into custom parts, and if they break.....

Purely hypetethical.....

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#5 Guest_Matt and Tiggr_*

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 01:25 AM

QUOTE

Would you not replace the ECU completely and use the one that comes with the new engine? Assuming you know what you are doing with the loom, don't fancy rewiring one.Purely hypetethical.....

Unfortunatley not, as the ECU controls not only the engine, but the alarm/imobiliser, and the dashboard...

:-|

Hence why I got more than one in Tiggr

#6 Turby

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Posted 14 March 2003 - 09:14 AM

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Unfortunatley not, as the ECU controls not only the engine, but the alarm/imobiliser, and the dashboard...

Tell me more... what does the ECU control on an analogue dashboard ? (I know it does the rev counter) and the speedo is mechanical

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Posted 15 March 2003 - 01:35 PM

yep u read it right an FRP with 250bhp
honda 2 litre motor
throttle bodies lsd box
etc etc etc

watch this space
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#8 Turby

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 04:41 PM

QUOTE

yep u read it right an FRP with 250bhp
honda 2 litre motor
throttle bodies lsd box
etc etc etc

watch this space
www.pumaspeed.co.uk

I've watched this space now for nearly a month... any progress ?

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#9 RobK

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Posted 22 April 2003 - 12:25 PM

I like the idea of the Honda motor. :twisted:

Put me in the queue if I can find someone dumb enough to insure me!!

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#10 RobK

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Posted 22 April 2003 - 12:37 PM

Ignore that last post, just tried to get insured on a 1.7...... they kindly told me to go away!!!

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#11 Adpuma

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Posted 22 April 2003 - 01:11 PM

Bah! That's disappointing news Rob.

How about (hypothetical) a rally Puma shell (the ones even wider than an FRP) with a Honda S2000 engine and RWD? Might be tough to balance the car, but the wheelbase should be about right seeing as the S2000's engine is mounted behind the front axle.

#12 MarkyMark

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Posted 22 April 2003 - 01:19 PM

There is also plans afoot for another well known jap engine to go into a Focus shell, that should be pretty specail,

But what about using a 2ltr focus engine with turbo or supercharged?, wouldnt that be easier