[philalix]

could you please indicate me benefit on the car if these parts are fitted ?
I guess more power using more fuel, but as I don't care about this...Only use my puma as a track day car.

I have got all FRP conversion conversion

[alex182]

In comparison are they any bigger? more air=more fuel, if your not bothered about economy i dont see the problem??

[volcomstone411]

larger inlet capactiy. It has a larger throttle plate to allow more air. But really needs a remap, but will work withou ton all be it alitle leaner than ideal

[3cxjay]

larger inlet capactiy. It has a larger throttle plate to allow more air. But really needs a remap, but will work withou ton all be it alitle leaner than ideal

What?? it wont run any leaner with a larger throttle body as the maff sensor will componaste it, its a good mod but you wont really norice alot of difference.

[warrenpenalver]

the ECU has only limited capability to adapt to changes and only within certain parameters.

A remap is the only way to get an accurate picture of the mods worth.

I suspect it would be a worth while mod if you had properly sorted head, cams, flowed inlet manifold, full remap etc!!!

[Shilly]

what model mondeo do these come off are they the plastic ones ?

[volcomstone411]

What?? it wont run any leaner with a larger throttle body as the maff sensor will componaste it, its a good mod but you wont really norice alot of difference.

if its within the MAFs log table, which usually they arnt

[warrenpenalver]

what model mondeo do these come off are they the plastic ones ?

I believe its a 2.0l Zetec E engined mondeo, mostly Mk1 mondeo SI's. The thottle body and maf is bigger. The bore of throttle body and the actual complete bore of the maf is lots bigger.

The throttle body is also found on the RS1800 fiesta.

I know of people who have used the mondeo 2.0 maf body but swapped the correct MAF sensor into its casing.

[FlashBastd]

It would be any Mk1 2.0 Mondeo then, the Si was mechanically identical to Ghia, LX, GLX, except for spring and damper settings.

Does it just bolt on, and modification to the cable connection, TPS, etc?

[3Ddunk]

I was running with a 2.0 tb last week at Castle Combe but can't tell if its an improvment yet, as I had a crack / hole at the end of the day on my exhaust manifold.

This post has been edited by 3Ddunk: 11 July 2009 - 11:02 PM

[eldoodarino]

Without knowing much about MAF operation other than basics.... i still think common sense alone tells me this this is going to make sod all differnce....

of all the tweaks Ford Racing did to the FRP to lift the power output without any serious engine mods, if there was any milage in this at all they would have jumped straight on this me thinks......

I can see it being more sucessful along side a forced induction system and aftermarket ecu tho...

[Wooshy]

I can garantee this will make no diffrence ! I had a RS1800 before my puma and I took off the Throttle body while I still had it and messured against the Puma TB and there was acctuley SOD all diffrence .... dont waste your time people !!! And I know the RS1800 TB is the same as the 2.0 as I used a 2.0 TB on a XR2i 16v I also have had, where with the 2.0 cams, 2.0 ECU, MAF AND TB made a diffrence.

This post has been edited by Wooshy: 12 July 2009 - 09:45 AM

[hotrodspike]

The 2.0l TB (one of the plastic ones, needs some modification to fit) I've got is 55mm diameter against the 48mm of the Puma's. That gives an increase of about 30% over the standard Puma airflow, so it should make some difference, even if it's the wrong way.

[warrenpenalver]

I wonder how much difference shorter inlet manifold tubes would make to throttle response??