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#21 User is offline   Matt & Tiggr MKIII 

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 11:39 AM

Having lived for 160,000 miles with a roll caged Puma I will just make this point.

IF the car is your day to day vehicle, then really have a good think about doing this. You lose the back seat ( even if you have a removable diagonal brace its not easy to get the rear door cards back in, and lots of VERY sharp metal under those door cards.... ) You also lose friends as they bang various bits of anatomy off the cage.

Its the one mod in Tiggr I wish I hadnt had done to be honest.

If anyone wants photo's of the prototype cage that Safety Devices built, I'll post them up, they had Tiggr for a month in Feb 1999 an used her as the basis for their production cages.
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#22 User is offline   Minishonk 

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 11:41 AM

if possible matt that would be brilliant smile.gif

#23 User is offline   Matt & Tiggr MKIII 

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 11:56 AM

Right, probably be tomorrow as I've got to find them now wink.gif
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#24 User is offline   Matt & Tiggr MKIII 

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 03:58 PM

Cage images

SD 6 point bolt in cage, as fitted to my old beastie













As for entry and exit, ask Kate, or even ickle Ben, both of which have injured themselves on the cage wink.gif


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#25 User is offline   warrenpenalver 

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 09:55 PM

QUOTE (Minishonk @ May 25 2009, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
me personally think there even but offen people say weld in are stiffer but once u have a smack with a weld in cage you are gonna struggle to get the cage out. IMO you wouldnt notice the difference between a bolt in and a weld in inless your in a stupidly light track car

If your tracking a car on trackdays, youll notice the difference. A bolt in cage is adequate from a safety perspective for many motorsport series. You forget that a cage like matts will add stiffness to the shell but it is primarily for safety. A full weld in cage is designed usually both for safety and stiffness as it will link from the front suspension turrets all the way back to the rear ones.

All depends on budget and what you want.

Also resusing a crashed roll cage, bolt in or otherwise is a very bad idea unless your a professional and can check all the componants. Yes the WRC teams can rebuild crashed cars with a lot of damage including fixing cage bends etc but is a very specialist area.

QUOTE (Matt & Tiggr MKIII @ May 25 2009, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IF the car is your day to day vehicle, then really have a good think about doing this. You lose the back seat ( even if you have a removable diagonal brace its not easy to get the rear door cards back in, and lots of VERY sharp metal under those door cards....

Birbeck have taken over the parts supply for S1600 cars and that includes the cut down rear door cards so you can solve this metal issue.

QUOTE (Matt & Tiggr MKIII @ May 27 2009, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As for entry and exit, ask Kate, or even ickle Ben, both of which have injured themselves on the cage wink.gif

hahahahaha You get used to it!!! Im not the smallest or most flexible person but you do get used to it eventually. Tight car park spaces are "interesting" though.


Looking on the bright side you get plenty of places to tie on your shopping bags and such like so that a trip home from the supermarket doesnt leave a massacre in your boot!! laugh.gif
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#26 User is offline   Ben RS Turbo 

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 05:55 PM

Here are some Pics of the Wiechers Sport Rollcage I receive this day: Puma Rollcage



Specs:
-Lightened
-Optionals lateral struts and for Harnesses
-Double rear Cross
And so on...

It seems to be a very good product, with good adjustements wink.gif
Will see when my new Puma come for final adjustement....

This post has been edited by Ben RS Turbo: 08 June 2009 - 05:57 PM


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Posted 08 June 2009 - 08:45 PM

if you dont mind me asking, how much did it set you back?

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#28 User is offline   Ben RS Turbo 

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 08:51 PM

I think the same like me would be around £1200.

Without options or certificate for race homologation, it would be cheaper.

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#29 User is offline   bouncy 

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 08:54 PM

Id like to know the price too. Watching with interest!!! biggrin.gif

#30 User is offline   Ben RS Turbo 

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 09:09 PM

Wiechers Sport Web page

Here is pricelist in Deutsch.



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Posted 08 June 2009 - 09:26 PM

Ive been in touch with this company,

http://www.geronimocages.co.uk/index.php

Im waiting for prices. They need a doner car to make the cage for, mines not ready yet but if anyones interested I bet we could get them for right money if ordered in bulk!!! good.gif

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 11:19 PM

thats a lot of money for that cage!! ohmy.gif

my multipoint weld in cage was £1400 fitted!!
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#33 User is offline   Minishonk 

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 01:36 AM

harry hockley quoted me 1100 for a weld in custom made an fitted!

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:13 PM

My FIA / MSA approved weld in (same as Warrenpenalver's I think) was quoted as £1200 fitted by Custom Cages 2-3 years ago; did the fitting myself, the cost of the cage was around £600 or £700 I think.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:48 PM

im gonna get saving after my curent probs, i only want a half cage for the rear though

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Posted 11 June 2009 - 10:39 AM

i have the rollcage from wiechers in my puma, for 3yeras i buy it for 630€...

the strut for the Harnesses are selfmade.

http://www.luenecom.de/vereine/fordclub/un...aefig/index.htm
http://www.luenecom.de/vereine/fordclub/un...efig1/index.htm







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#37 User is offline   stuartg 

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 01:53 PM

If you want the ultimate, here is the cage in my Puma...

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#38 User is offline   Ben RS Turbo 

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  Posted 26 August 2009 - 07:39 PM

QUOTE (stuartg @ Aug 26 2009, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you want the ultimate, here is the cage in my Puma...



Looks great !!!!


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Posted 28 August 2009 - 09:34 PM

bloody hell that is a proper cage!!
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Posted 07 June 2011 - 07:45 PM

dont suppose any one got any specific sizes or drawing for a cage?only for the rear dont wanna do all the front,im a welder/fabricator u see and il be able to make and fit for ALOT cheaper lol
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