[Dom36]

Just phoned Ric Wood in Stockport, asking him for a price of a custom map on a dreamscience and he said around £600! That doesn't include the kt itself.

Is this right?
Even at £100 an hour thats 6 hours work?!

How much are other people paying? I was guessing that it wouldn't be more than about £50 to put a new custom map on it! lol

This post has been edited by Dom36: 18 August 2008 - 09:29 AM

[r6wej]

I have been told a guy near me in Southampton does the racing puma map them for around £100 with a proven gain of 135bhp from my mates puma lump in his fiesta.

[JamesMalin]

Check www.dreamscience.co.uk for all info.

[Dom36]

Since posting here I have learned that I got my wires crossed between a "stratagem" and a custom map.
The stratagems supplied by the dreamscience dealers cost £40-£50, and uses prior experiences to ensure a suitable map...a custom map is a little more complex and requires tuning on the rolling road.
I still think £600 is extortionate though!!!

[JamesMalin]

This is what you want

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Introducing the DSF3000 - NEW !

The DSF3000 advanced custom tuning unit loads performance files onto your vehicle and stores your original stock program. Supplied unprogrammed you now have the ability to have your car individually custom tuned on a rolling road by a Dreamscience Master dealer to suit your personal taste and vehicle set up, including partially and heavily modified cars. Simply buy this unit and take it to your nearest Dreamscience Master dealer who will personally custom tune your car for maximum power, incorporating any modifications ,and then they load the tune files in to your unit.

Also included, live datalogging of up to 24 parameters, fault codes and analogue input for wide-band O2.

The First Compact Hand Held Flash Tool to feature COMPLETE USER ADJUSTABILITY & BUILT IN DATA LOGGING! Up to three custom or generic tuning files can be stored for up-loading. Examples are,

1) Performance,
2) Race,
3) Economy,

USB interface for connection to PC(Included) Datalogging via SCT's free Livelink Software Read / Clear & Diagnose DTC Trouble Codes / Check engine Lights with ease.

The DSF3000 stores your vehicles own stock program for safe-keeping. User adjustable features such as timing, idle, fans, injectors, tire size, etc, where supported. You can re-load your cars standard file at any time. Easily load tune updates from dealers, etc. Support for most Ford's (1250+) Your DSF2000 or DSF3000 can be transferred to another vehicle up to five times, when set back to stock. This allows you to sell or upgrade your vehicle. Your dealer will be able to load new software for your new vehicle for an upgrade fee.

Add a finishing touch to your dreamscience tune with one of our exclusive styling badges, starting at only £5 with FREE delivery when ordered with one of our tuning products.

[Dom36]

James, I've already got that unit lol

[JamesMalin]

Well then what are you asking about then?

Do you want a 'New' custom map for you car because you have added mods?

Surely you can do it yourself?

I doubt it'd cost £600 for a company to do it for you especially if you have all the kit already.

[Dom36]

This is an old thread, since 18th August I've bought the dreamscience and had Pumabuild put a map on it "estimating" what would be best for my car.

"I doubt it'd cost £600 for a company to do it for you especially if you have all the kit already. "
is exaclty the point I was making from this thread...couldn't believe the cost! That was at Ric Wood not including the unit.

This post has been edited by Dom36: 02 September 2008 - 05:21 PM

[JamesMalin]

Ah right i see. I thought the date was 28th Aug not 18th


So how have you found the Dream Science then? Is there another thread detailing what's what?

i.e what mods you have, dyno results etc etc?

[Dom36]

Not specifically another thread really, just a select few relating to different related things.
I have 4-2-1 back, and previously had an FRP re-map.
Compared to the FRP map I can say the dreamscience is a HUGE improvement!...it rev's so easily and alot quicker...
Had a rolling road done 2 days before dreamscience, and my other thread highlights my results of that.
My head tells me to get a re-dyno ASAP to see the difference dreamscience has made, however I am that happy with the results I don't want to be dissapointed with say a 1hp improvement. At the moment it has made a huge positive difference and I'm enjoying that

[JamesMalin]

Looks like i'm investing in that soon then

I have an FRP ECU on my 1.7 but its only on long term loan!

DSF3000 - £450 - Well spent really

[Dom36]

I found the FRP map to make the car run lean, confirmed by the dyno run, the guy said it "sounded lean", and the fact that my spark plugs were showing signs of running lean.
The 3000 unit allows you to data-log, which has allowed me to see that the fueling is spot on now!

I also think that the car pulls better in 1st, I'm still not convinced that the FRP map has no 1st gear torque limiter?!

Next tank-full will be Optimax to see the difference that can make

[JamesMalin]

So where did you get your's done DreamScience wise and how much was it in total?

To be fair i wouldn't want to DiY my maps!

[Dom36]

Bought the unit used off here with 4 "lives" left.
Then got it mapped at Pumabuild who have put 3 maps on for £50.
A performance one; for everyday driving.
A motorway one for increased performance between 60 and 80.
And one that will make the car run really hot giving me a good chance of passing emissions with no CAT...

I was previously borderline, but that could have been due to the underfueling. If I can pass MOT with no CAT the unit has then paid for itself.

To DIY maps you need the kit, which is £900 I belive volcomstone411 has this, although I'm not sure how he's getting on

[JamesMalin]

Ah right i see.

Looks like PumaBuild will be getting a few quid then. I just hope its good quality work.

I've always had 'Hit & Miss' with both PumaBuild & PumaSpeed

I'd have :-

- Normal Driving Map - Poodling around town and to work and back
- Performance - When i want to give it a few beans
- Race - When i'm going hell for leather!

[HFStuart]

having been ripped off badly .... by so called tuners, ....if you are happy with the work done at PB

Anyone particular in mind Matt

[HFStuart]

Oh yes, one complete feckin crook...

Lets just say its amazing how many cars that went through the tuning shop went missing not long after they were worked on...

Ouch !

I've only been done for £200 paying cash to a scrappie who promised to send panels later and never did. If I'd known he was going to do that I'd have nicked more trim bits...

[JamesMalin]

Although Rik apparently does do good work is it still worth £600 on top of the £450 you pay for the DreamScience itself?

A whole day spent mapping your car?

Would i be 100% satisfied with his work?