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New 55mm Throttle Body And Frp Manifold Bored Out Absolute awesome upgrade

#1 User is offline   ally frp364 

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Posted 01 August 2007 - 10:44 PM

I have been running about with a new 55mm throttle body for a couple of weeks now and have noticed some excellent throttle response. But tonight I just put my frp back together with the inlet manifold now bored out to 55mm on throttle body side to match t/b. This has to be the best bolt on mod and bit of graft you can do without dismantling the engine and costing serious money. Corners I normal take on full throttle I am doing at half as acceleration is alot quicker as the frp should have been. I have downloaded pics onto the gallery because I can't insert photos on topic page.

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Posted 01 August 2007 - 10:51 PM

i will check the pics out good.gif
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Posted 02 August 2007 - 07:08 AM

What car did you get the 55mm throttle body from?
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Posted 02 August 2007 - 09:00 AM

This sounds very interesting.

Here are a couple of the pics so people don't have to go to the gallery:





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Posted 02 August 2007 - 09:06 AM

looks good! where did you get the throttle body from? and how did you bore out the manifold?

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 10:09 AM

QUOTE (racingpuma1982 @ Aug 2 2007, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
looks good! where did you get the throttle body from? and how did you bore out the manifold?

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The throttle body is a standard 1.7 one 'beautifully' modified so bolts straight on. The trusty dremels came out of retirement and done the job

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 10:12 AM

You modified the throttle body with a dremmel?

Surely you haven't got an exact 55mm all the way thru then?

Manifold is easier to do i reckon smile.gif
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Posted 02 August 2007 - 10:34 AM

QUOTE (JamesMalin @ Aug 2 2007, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You modified the throttle body with a dremmel?

Surely you haven't got an exact 55mm all the way thru then?

Manifold is easier to do i reckon smile.gif


No sorry just the manifold was done by myself with the dremel. The throttle body was professionally made by an engineer and is absolutely spot on.

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 10:43 AM

Blimey you got a right touch there then biggrin.gif


I think you can use an Escort RS Turbo Manifold can't you? Thats 55mm i think.


Will people see any benefits on an non FRP?

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 01:36 PM

How much did it cost to get the throttle body done professionally?

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 02:05 PM

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How much did it cost to get the throttle body done professionally?


Very very cheap as it was the first one to be done so i'm the guinea pig as they say. I paid £50 for the work to be done and he supplied the throttle body. Normal 1.7 pumas will undoubtedly notice a huge difference over standard. I ran the enlarge throttle body for 2 weeks there and notice alot better throttle response and was told by the engineer that the real gains will not be made until the inlet is taken out to match the t/b. So couple of nights ago i started to strip down the car in order to get the inlet manifold out(you know drivers side light out, aux belt, alternator off, front grill, drivers wheel, then inlet etc). Got manifold out and machined on bench for bout 3-4 hours, damn those dremels. Cut gasket to suit then put back together. The performance actually throws you back in the seat which i'm sure few puma owners have experience in theirs.

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 02:12 PM

QUOTE (JamesMalin @ Aug 2 2007, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Blimey you got a right touch there then biggrin.gif
I think you can use an Escort RS Turbo Manifold can't you? Thats 55mm i think.
Will people see any benefits on an non FRP?

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Don't think that would mate to 1.7 zetec head, never heard of that mod. Any 1700 would notice a huge difference on standard.

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 04:14 PM

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 04:54 PM

might be worth checking the port end too - my old fiesta had some horrible lumps of cast alloy restricting the ports. the purpose was to hold the injectors but a casting process can be very sloppy. i filed them flat & bought out the edges to mate upto gas flowed head. response was a lot better & i recon that a couple nights filing gained me a couple of bhp as more air was getting in.

iv seen a place on the internet that does the throttle body and flows the wotsit next the air box, names left me - temp sensor thingy? is that where you got it?

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 05:13 PM

I have the Focus RS- Throttlebody in my Puma, with a modified throttle control cable and holder







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Posted 02 August 2007 - 06:07 PM

Are you planning on a rolling road session? I wonder if there's a noticable difference in numbers smile.gif
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Posted 02 August 2007 - 06:58 PM

Can we have more info on the company used?

£50 seems a billy bargain biggrin.gif
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Posted 02 August 2007 - 08:42 PM

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Corners I normal take on full throttle I am doing at half as acceleration is alot quicker as the frp should have been.


There is a simple reason for that that you TB is letting in as much air at half throttle as it used to do at full throttle. HOWEVER, it does not mean you car is any quicker or that you ahve anymore power at full throttle. Unless you recalibrate the MAF the ECU will not know you are getting more air at full throttle anyway. It is likely that when you are generating less power at full throttle than you used to because you will not be getting any extra fuel to go with the air. The engine will still only use as much air as it needs regardless of how much you give it. Unless you help it to use/burn more air (mapping, cams, sensor calibration etc) you will gain nothing.
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Posted 02 August 2007 - 09:55 PM

QUOTE (JamesMalin @ Aug 2 2007, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can we have more info on the company used?

£50 seems a billy bargain biggrin.gif


I have been sworn to secrecy and will contact him on email if I can give out his details. He done that one for me as abit of a one off and said if he did it again it would be alot more like £100, which is well worth it. He did point out that when I bought it I would have to port the manifold to suit before I would get full benefit, and boy was he right.

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 10:02 PM

QUOTE (Clawz @ Aug 2 2007, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you planning on a rolling road session? I wonder if there's a noticable difference in numbers smile.gif



The car is going to get unichipped as soon as funds allow, but just bought a house a few days ago so cash will be abit tight to get pass missis the now. I will get car rolling roaded before and after chip. I've chose to unichip the car as it will be properly mapped fuel air ratio thus allowing to get full benefit of t/b, rather than a generic bluefin map.

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