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#21 User is offline   PumaJay 

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 08:52 PM

liking that car very much!!
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Posted 16 August 2009 - 05:22 PM

QUOTE (PumaJay @ Aug 15 2009, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
liking that car very much!!


Thanks Matey.

Just making this fibreglass bonnet for it at the mo!!!



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Posted 16 August 2009 - 08:02 PM

What were the rolling road results like please?
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Posted 16 August 2009 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE (happy-kat @ Aug 16 2009, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What were the rolling road results like please?



lee said it made around 180hp, without the charge cooler up and running and at low boost! (because the tuners didn't want to run the newly rebuilt engine flat out) its gonna go back when its run in and should made another 30hp more
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Posted 16 August 2009 - 09:20 PM

Sorry guys, forgot.
They wouldnt run it at more than 0.9 of a bar and was set up on 95 ron, the charge cooler wasnt connected and due to the engine been brand new they limited the revs.

However it still made 181bhp @ 6000 and 189lbf torque@ 4500rpm. The torque figures are quite good and im not going to alter anything until im happy with the engine. Emerald recon its more likely be 200bhp on the road.

As i said im not after loads of bhp, I want to make a reliable track/road car and the car feels great on the road and pulls really strong in the mid range.
Im booked in at Elvington next month for my first track day. so i will see how she goes. Id rather sacrifice HP and have a few track days than build engines every few weeks, as its no fun!!!! biggrin.gif

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 09:20 AM

Well said, and emerald sound very trustworthy/sensible.

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 09:56 AM

nice figures for low boost and low revs.

what were the ACT's like without the charge cooler??

Be interesting to see what the ACT's are like when its fitted!

I imagine youve still got a way to go with upping the boost provided you can keep the ACT's low enough and the AFR's safe!!
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Posted 17 August 2009 - 10:01 AM

oh is it standard radiator??? be interesting to see how hot it gets as the core on a standard puma looks tiny!!! I imagine you could get a more efficient radiator within the ford range for a cheaper option or recore your radiator with a bigger core if needs be! I remember looking at Jackos car and with the puma rad core, theres tons of space left for a bigger core that would fit within the standard ford radiator end caps!

I imagine the oil cooler will help a lot too.
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Posted 17 August 2009 - 12:02 PM

QUOTE (bouncy @ Aug 16 2009, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry guys, forgot.
They wouldnt run it at more than 0.9 of a bar and was set up on 95 ron, the charge cooler wasnt connected and due to the engine been brand new they limited the revs.

However it still made 181bhp @ 6000 and 189lbf torque@ 4500rpm. The torque figures are quite good and im not going to alter anything until im happy with the engine. Emerald recon its more likely be 200bhp on the road.

As i said im not after loads of bhp, I want to make a reliable track/road car and the car feels great on the road and pulls really strong in the mid range.
Im booked in at Elvington next month for my first track day. so i will see how she goes. Id rather sacrifice HP and have a few track days than build engines every few weeks, as its no fun!!!! biggrin.gif


I'm liking it a lot, you live around the York area then ?
I've been looking around the net for ages about turboing/charging the 1.7 lump and never found much.
Is it a new block you've got ? the liners look sweet.

Might have to invesitgate the track day at Elvington myself, only standard green puma mind you smile.gif
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Posted 17 August 2009 - 01:41 PM

QUOTE (warrenpenalver @ Aug 17 2009, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nice figures for low boost and low revs.

what were the ACT's like without the charge cooler??

Be interesting to see what the ACT's are like when its fitted!

I imagine youve still got a way to go with upping the boost provided you can keep the ACT's low enough and the AFR's safe!!



Warren, havnt got a clue what the charge temp readings were, defo wont be low. AFR's richen to about 11:1 at max torque and power readings.
Stock radiator at the moment, im going to get bigger rad and alter the fan set up later on.

QUOTE (Yorkshirepadd @ Aug 17 2009, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm liking it a lot, you live around the York area then ?
I've been looking around the net for ages about turboing/charging the 1.7 lump and never found much.
Is it a new block you've got ? the liners look sweet.

Might have to invesitgate the track day at Elvington myself, only standard green puma mind you smile.gif



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Posted 17 August 2009 - 04:19 PM

As I said, you might be able to recore your rad cheaper than an all alloy one and if your not running mega boost then you shouldnt have any problems with soo much heat the system pressurises too much.
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Posted 17 August 2009 - 05:36 PM

QUOTE (warrenpenalver @ Aug 17 2009, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As I said, you might be able to recore your rad cheaper than an all alloy one and if your not running mega boost then you shouldnt have any problems with soo much heat the system pressurises too much.



If it does it knows where the rad cap is................... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I will see in next few weeks what it runs like and hopefully the track day is more of a test day. Im going to have probs, im sure. This car all bar its dash has been stripped and rebuilt, so im sure somethings going to fall off............. laugh.gif

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 01:28 PM

You look to have done a cracking job there. Thumbs up here!

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:09 PM

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You look to have done a cracking job there. Thumbs up here!



Thank you very much ja_cool.gif

Just waiting for bonnet to be painted and ive made some mounts to weld to inner wings to fit bonnet pins. Im doing away with the hinges

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:24 PM


Just a quick update,

I had the car tracked up today, only slightly out. Im still waiting for new bonnet to arrive and new graphics kit ive had made.

Its all ready for wednesdays track day. Going to cover front bumper with clear sticky back plastic as ive heard Elvington can be a bit harsh with the stone chips.

Quite looking forward to my first ever outing, hope its as good as everyone says!!!! biggrin.gif







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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:33 PM

Not sure about the sticky stuff, bonnet will get super hot, might it melt/stick and pull the paint off ja_stupid.gif
If that is tomorrow, have fantastic fun biggrin.gif
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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:40 PM

QUOTE (happy-kat @ Aug 25 2009, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not sure about the sticky stuff, bonnet will get super hot, might it melt/stick and pull the paint off ja_stupid.gif
If that is tomorrow, have fantastic fun biggrin.gif




Thanks
Sticky stuff going on front bumper, bonnet on car is just a spare bonnet while my other is being painted. Track day is next wednesday. It wouldnt pull paint off as its the same stuff you make graphics out of, but well worth using to stop stone chips!!! Tip of the Day!!! biggrin.gif

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:55 PM

have you kept the vct on the new management your running??

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 08:17 PM

QUOTE (3cxjay @ Aug 25 2009, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
have you kept the vct on the new management your running??


Yes ive kept the VCT with the emerald set up

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 08:47 PM

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Yes ive kept the VCT with the emerald set up


is it actual vct or running on a v-tec setting mate, sorry for the questions!! did it take alot of setting up to run the vct, do you know how many hours in total?

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