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Changine Rear Bushes For Powerflex.

#1 User is offline   Big Boy Al 

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 10:11 PM

thought id put this up but i know there is an article in the wiki allready but you might want too add some pictures to it??

hope it helps

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well not on the frp but exactly the same so thought id do a little write up just incase anyone wants to do theirs and are a bit worried about doing them.

these ones were being done on my track puma that im trying to sort out over the next few months.

1: loosen off wheel nuts, use a trolley jack and jack the car up via the rear beam and place an axle stand under either side on the part of the sill where ford recommend to use the wind up jack on, use a soft pad or cloth on each stand to stop any damage to the paint on the sills.
remove wheels and put to one side. leave the trolley jack supporting the rear beam for now.

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2:spray some penetrating fluid or wd40 on the rear beam bush bolts and leave for a while preferably a few hours to let it soak in, you may not want to but i think it helped get mine undone.

3: undo the rear beam bolts, you will need a 15mm socket and a 19mm spanner, strange sizes but thats what sizes mine were.

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4: once the bolts are undone remove them and lower the trolley jack down slowly about 6 inches until you can see the bushes and work on them.

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5: my rear bushes were completely shot and id put money on them being the originals how it past an mot two months ago is beyond me.

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6: get a drill and a 50mm hole saw, this fits perfectly inside the metal shrouding of the ford bush allowing you to drill out the rubber.

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7: drill into the bush as far as you can, you will have to drill it from both sides and it seems to get quite hard towards the middle but keep at it.

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8: once most of the way through give the rubber part a good wack with a hammer and chisel and the rubber part will fall out.

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9: once thats done you still have the outer metal casing of the bush left in the hole, this is in there very tight as they are pressed in bushes. to get this out isnt that hard at all. get a hacksaw, remove the blade and put it through the hole and reconnect it to the hacksaw.

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10: cut two lines about 20mm apart through the outer casing but not into the beam if you can help it, once most of the way through which will take a couple of minutes on each line, take a 20mm chisel or big flat head screwdriver and give it a good whack in between the two lines that you have just cut, once you get over half way through the pressure will release and the bush casing will fall right out.

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11:once this is out give the inside of the beam a quick rub down with some sandpaper just too smooth it off.

12: get your powerflex bush, insert the metal sleeve into it and put some copper slip on the outside of the bush to help it slide in.

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13: put the bush in place and ease it in with the help of a hammer, they go in very easily.

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14: once in place and you have both sides done jack the beam back up into place and put the bolts back through, put some locktite on the threads and put the nuts back on, do these up and hey presto.( didnt get a picture with the nuts on but you get the idea).

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15: put the wheels back on.

16: jack the car up to release the axle stands.

17: release the jack and lower the car down to the ground.

18: start engine and go fly around some roundabouts :cool::cool:

notes:

on the standard puma you have a baffle box on the centre section near where the bush is, i could get the bolt out as this was in the way so just had to drop the back box and centre section off its rubbers and let it rest on the rear beam, four rubbers. on the frp its no problem as no box there.

also make sure that both powerflex bushes are installed the same way, either with the big flat end both on the outside edges of the car or with both flat edges on the inside of the car, either way is fine as long as they are both the same.

hope that helps someone,

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Posted 03 February 2010 - 10:48 PM

Great guide, however anyone not planning on using their Puma as a track car, would be better served with new standard bushes - compared to new rubber bushes the polys in the rear beam make little or no difference regarding the sharpness of the chassis, however they do transmit a lot more vibration into the car.

If it's going to be a track car, then this isn't a problem, but for day-to-day use, you can get fed up with it pretty quickly.
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 11:05 PM

Yeah I've got them all round in the frp too and I know what you mean, me and burfyboy are putting standard frp bushes back in mine at the front at the weekend but keeping the rear ones. I like them they make the rear feel more planted to me when driven hard. Can't believe how solid the back end is on this silver one now.

Just fronts to do got standard front lower arm bushes and frp ones for the rear lower arms. Oh and coilovers to do , brakes, exhaust system, wheels and seats and strut braces lol. Nit much oh and cambelt and cams.
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 12:46 AM

Great tip about the 50mm hole saw, never thought of that before. Will give it a go the next time. :good:

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 07:34 AM

I will put that on my must do list for Wugsy before he come back onto the road ;)
Provided I don't get an unexpected surprises from the garage fitting the LSD.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 06:51 PM

Thanks Al :)
I will add this too as a guide.
the existing one does have pictures, but good to have a different set :beer:
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 07:22 PM

View PostDogsbody, on 04 February 2010 - 07:34 AM, said:

I will put that on my must do list for Wugsy before he come back onto the road ;)
Provided I don't get an unexpected surprises from the garage fitting the LSD.

18v Dewalt battery drill....Do you thing my 9v Woolworths one will be man enough :(


yeah get it done graham i love the powerflex but some people dont but at least they never need changing again.

no dont think so wilth the drill mine struggled a bit as the rubber starts melting onto the cutter where it gets so hot.

240v electric one would be better.

View Posthappy-kat, on 04 February 2010 - 06:51 PM, said:

Thanks Al :)
I will add this too as a guide.
the existing one does have pictures, but good to have a different set :beer:



no problem kate glad its of help :cool:
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 09:52 PM

me and the hubby are gonna give this a bash as the gargage want £200 to change them

gonna do the rear brakes too as one wheel was an advisory on the last MOT probably the adjuster thats worn
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 09:53 PM

Wiki done :D
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 09:54 PM

View Postmyweepuma, on 04 February 2010 - 09:52 PM, said:

me and the hubby are gonna give this a bash as the gargage want £200 to change them

gonna do the rear brakes too as one wheel was an advisory on the last MOT probably the adjuster thats worn


cool its not a hard job just needs some patience and a bit of thought, the standard bushes need pressing in so make sure you get the powerflex ones :)
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 10:02 PM

hmmm i've been reading some not so good stuff about the powerflex ones my rear end sounds awful at the moment surely the powerflex have got to be better than the banging about ???

had the rear bushes done a couple of years ago on the other puma and the difference when it was done was fab just want to not worry about going over slight cracks in the road :s
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 10:13 PM

be aware that the PF on the back end do cause the ride to be quite harsh.... this is Al's track car... :)

Also, well worth replacing the bolt and extra tight nyloc locking nut too.... which is quite tricky to get a good swing on when the car is just on axle stands...it's do'able but bloody awkward!.... if the nut isn't done up properly, you get pretty bad knocking/banging on the back end...(speaking from experiences..lol)...

bit of credit should go to Vas for the hole cutter idea...after we spent AGES removing one of his...then minutes doing the next one after a trip to B&Q for the hole cutter.... not sure whether Al saw this on my previous thread, but it does work a treat!....i tried then to get a deep cutter that goes all the way through, but not very easy to get unless you buy a big expensive set of them.....

i still say oem is best at the back... :bebe: :bebe:

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 10:19 PM

so am better just putting the car in to the garage and getting them pressed in then??

oh well if needs must as i really dont want to listen to a bangin rear lol just need to hold off on replacing my alloys then :(
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 07:28 PM

i'd be surprised if the banging was the bushes anyway.... they usually just develop lots of excessive movment over time, not banging as such...??

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 08:31 PM

View Posteldoodarino, on 04 February 2010 - 10:13 PM, said:

i still say oem is best at the back...



I have removed my Powerflex from the back and replaced them with standard bushes, but they are manufactured by FEBI Bilstein, which are supposed to be better than Ford's own.

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