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Put a deposit down on a FRP aint drove it yet
http://www.tempestforcars.co.uk/view.asp?ID=10352
I have a civic type r at the mo and some jelous chav smashed it so insurance is ridiculous so need something cheaper like the frp where the insurance is half!!
Do i buy one or not i love rallying and the image of it is awesome i appreciate it wont be as fast as my civic but are they good to drive and worth the money?? oh and is the reliability any good as my honda was bullet proof!!
How quick are they in the real world??
And what good mods can you do??
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Frp Do I Or Dont I?
#2 Guest_darrenspalmer_*
Posted 25 March 2007 - 05:58 PM
hmmm wanna watch out there - they're quoting 123bhp........ me thinks they don't know what it really is.....
And an adjustable steering column? that'll be a 1st on a Puma.............
It'll go round corners like you'll never believe. Not mental in a straight line, but if you want that - get a corvette.....
And an adjustable steering column? that'll be a 1st on a Puma.............
It'll go round corners like you'll never believe. Not mental in a straight line, but if you want that - get a corvette.....
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 06:01 PM
123bhp???
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 06:14 PM
yeh i think they made a mistake and put std 1.7 lol
until i drive one i dont know whether to keep civic or not!! lol it will be cheaper to insure and run so thats a bonus!!
until i drive one i dont know whether to keep civic or not!! lol it will be cheaper to insure and run so thats a bonus!!
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 06:15 PM
STD 1.7 still aint got no adjustable steering column!
You sure?
QUOTE (markfrp2007 @ Mar 25 2007, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeh i think they made a mistake and put std 1.7 lol
until i drive one i dont know whether to keep civic or not!! lol it will be cheaper to insure and run so thats a bonus!!
until i drive one i dont know whether to keep civic or not!! lol it will be cheaper to insure and run so thats a bonus!!
You sure?
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 06:19 PM
Think you'd best have a word with an FRP owner about running costs.....
Brake service anyone?
Brake service anyone?
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 06:34 PM
QUOTE (markfrp2007 @ Mar 25 2007, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeh deffo the type r is stupidly high running costs
have you read about frps at all??
if you think they are cheap to run and maintain then think again .
yes some people go a year without much trouble but when things do go wrong its an expensive car to fix.
a brake overhaul will set you back over 1k if you needed new disks, calipers etc. look here Pumabuild.co.uk/catalog/default.php?cPath=43_47_179" target="_blank">Pumabuild.co.uk/catalog/default...cPath=43_47_179" target="_blank">http://www.Pumabuild.co.uk/catalog/default...cPath=43_47_179
the oem exhaust system will set you back alot when needing a change - manifold is £400, centre section is £461 and the back box is £ 210. Pumabuild.co.uk/catalog/default.php?cPath=43_119" target="_blank">Pumabuild.co.uk/catalog/default.php?cPath=43_119" target="_blank">http://www.Pumabuild.co.uk/catalog/default.php?cPath=43_119
the body panels you dont even want to know how much they are but put it this way if you have a ding then you are looking at £900 for a wing in primer then painting and fitting so about £1300 for a replacement and there isnt an abundance of them . looky here Pumabuild.co.uk/catalog/default.php?cPath=43_178" target="_blank">Pumabuild.co.uk/catalog/default.php?cPath=43_178" target="_blank">http://www.Pumabuild.co.uk/catalog/default.php?cPath=43_178
frps can be very reliable but the nature of the car means they are driven harder and i reckon you will like to drive it hard/corner hard etc as you love the type r for its speed/handling etc. so this means the parts have more stresses and will brake quicker.
the calipers have no dust seals on them and need a proper service once a year which includes pistons fully out etc and spare parts for th calipers are not cheap and pads are £110. each of the 8 pistons are over £35 each too.
also sensors etc seem to die quicker in the frp, especially the hego sensor.
but saying all that the frp is by far the best handling and most fun car i have driven and i wouldnt change it for the world, so go for it but i wouldnt expect it too be as reliable as the type r .
FRP 241 RINGMEISTER -23 LAPS = 296.7 MILES COMPLETED, MORE TO COME NEXT YEAR
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 06:43 PM
i love the look of them but are they worth all these running costs?
They sound similar to type r to run then
but what you got to remember is the insurance is £1500 a year for me not £3000
They sound similar to type r to run then
but what you got to remember is the insurance is £1500 a year for me not £3000
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 06:48 PM
only one answer to your questions.
go drive that one and see what you feel.
but id place my bets that you will come back with a smile on your face and i bet the type r doesnt pop and crackle on overrun when you lift off the accelerator
go drive that one and see what you feel.
but id place my bets that you will come back with a smile on your face and i bet the type r doesnt pop and crackle on overrun when you lift off the accelerator
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 06:53 PM
do they pop and crackle std then no it doesnt!!
how loud are they std?
and do they have a 4 branch manifold or std??
if anyone could add me on msn so i could have a good chat would be grateful
marksnelling1@hotmail.com
how loud are they std?
and do they have a 4 branch manifold or std??
if anyone could add me on msn so i could have a good chat would be grateful
marksnelling1@hotmail.com
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 06:55 PM
yep frps pop and crackle on over run as standard.
frps are quite loud but not chav loud, its more of a raspy sound
yep 4-2-1 manifold as standard, sports cat as standard too.
ill add you now mate
frps are quite loud but not chav loud, its more of a raspy sound
yep 4-2-1 manifold as standard, sports cat as standard too.
ill add you now mate
FRP 241 RINGMEISTER -23 LAPS = 296.7 MILES COMPLETED, MORE TO COME NEXT YEAR
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:08 PM
QUOTE (markfrp2007 @ Mar 25 2007, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeh deffo the type r is stupidly high running costs
Please elaborate?
Quite often people confuse running costs with buying ICE, spoilers, turbos, lambo doors, collecting stuff at Halfords like a magnet etc...
Running costs are insurance, petrol, routine servicing/parts and depreciation.
Personally I think you'll find the FRP gutless after your CTR, no more traffic light grand prix
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:20 PM
QUOTE (markfrp2007 @ Mar 25 2007, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i love the look of them but are they worth all these running costs?
I've run mine over some 24,000 miles in two years.
I'd estimate my maintenance spend in that time to have been around £2,000 including the regular servicing, cambelt replacement and the stuff that broke / wore out.
Say 8p / mile? Meanwhile depreciation has probably been 4p / mile. Compare with somebody buying a Focus ST new and running it for 12,000 miles probably picks up depreciation at 25p / mile.
I don't call the FRP costs crippling, by any means.
The thing is you do never know if / when a big bill is going to creep up and bite you, so you need to be able to afford it, if it happens. But it won't necessarily happen particularly if you keep on top of regular maintenance.
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:22 PM
QUOTE (XIIVVX @ Mar 25 2007, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meanwhile depreciation has probably been 4p / mile. Compare with somebody buying a Focus ST new and running it for 12,000 miles probably picks up depreciation at 25p / mile.
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But then an FRP is considerably older than a Focus ST, so it's not quite a comparison is it...........
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:40 PM
ok guys im going to go for it just waiting on my civic to come out of bodyshop then i will go collect hopefully fri all finance is signed ready to go!!!
i rang the guy earlier and asked what number it was to find out about lsd and he said what do you mean number LOL
idiot he doesnt realise what he is selling!!
i rang the guy earlier and asked what number it was to find out about lsd and he said what do you mean number LOL
idiot he doesnt realise what he is selling!!
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:41 PM
QUOTE (markfrp2007 @ Mar 25 2007, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
idiot he doesnt realise what he is selling!!
He knows enough to price it accordingly though
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:55 PM
QUOTE (darrenspalmer @ Mar 25 2007, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But then an FRP is considerably older than a Focus ST, so it's not quite a comparison is it...........
The low depreciation of the FRP means that the actual cost of ownership is considerably less than a buying a current Focus which lots of people do without thinking "Oh my Lord, can I afford to own it.?"
I suspect most readers here may have been able to figure out that an FRP is older than a Focus ST for themselves, but thanks for pointing it out anyway.
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