Puma Rwd Rear-Mid Engined just discussion for now....
#1
Posted 10 June 2013 - 02:54 PM
The car is very good for amateur\fun trackdays. But i need to do something with the car next year or in 2015
I dont want to do common engine swap cause its:
1. Low power or too heavy for stock engines
2. Too expensive and very difficult for russian engine "specialists" (Tuned engine swap like any turbo on 2.0-2.3duratec, cosworth YB, etc)
The main idea is:
Mazda 3mps with 2.3 DISI engine mapped about ~300bhp as donor
Move everything from mazda engine bay with front suspension and wheels to the rear axle of puma (need to construct some cage or chassis for engine\axle).
Rebuld "new" rear suspension
Fix gearshifting
Fix engine cooling
i'll be glad to see yout advices, thougts, recomendations etc
ps I know its easier to buy clio v6!
we have too much m3 mps and they are VERY cheap...
#2
Posted 10 June 2013 - 03:05 PM
I'm building a Hillman Imp variant into a bike powered track toy.
Mine will have about 250 bhp per ton, but once the car is built it will be quite simple to replace the Ninja engine with say a ZZR1100 or ZZR1400 lump for a power increase.
Mk3 XR3i
R Reg 1.7 Puma
T Reg 1.7 Lux Puma
Now its Racing Puma 072
Graham
#3
Posted 10 June 2013 - 03:33 PM
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Q16Woql1PDs
Its a small russian car made by Kamaz.
#4
Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:40 PM
Cable linkage will make things easier.
Puma hydraulic clutch master should be suitable to re-plumb to the back.
Spaceframe will keep the weight down instead of taking the donor chassis legs depending how brave you are with a welder.
#5
Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:59 PM
As far as gearlinkage goes. If you stick whit the frp engien, or almost any ford engien for that mater, the box out of the focus would fitt, and is cable opperated, and also has a hydraulic clutch...
You would also need to figgure out somewhere to put the fuel tank..
Would be fun to se how thos goes
Projekt tread http://www.pumapeopl...pic=104790&st=0
Time, is the fire in which we burn
#6
Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:10 PM
basically use the full front end of a v6 mondeo and cut out the rear end of the puma to accomodate the front end of the mondeo. had this flying around my head for months now. and in theory have the most of the problems sorted.
im not giving to much away as all my plans and idea's tend to be pinched before I get a chance to do them myself.
#7
Posted 11 June 2013 - 01:35 PM
Dave in Scotland, fitted a V6 lump with full Sierra 4x4 system into a Puma body.
He uses it for Rallying.
http://www.pumapeopl...53
Mk3 XR3i
R Reg 1.7 Puma
T Reg 1.7 Lux Puma
Now its Racing Puma 072
Graham
#8
Posted 11 June 2013 - 04:54 PM
#9
Posted 11 June 2013 - 05:44 PM
Projekt tread http://www.pumapeopl...pic=104790&st=0
Time, is the fire in which we burn
#10
Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:33 PM
#11
Posted 13 June 2013 - 07:21 PM
Projekt tread http://www.pumapeopl...pic=104790&st=0
Time, is the fire in which we burn
#12
Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:01 AM
#13
Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:11 AM
#14
Posted 15 October 2013 - 11:21 AM
Before I built mine I looked at doing this (mid engine), and was going to spaceframe the Puma shell.
Current Rally regs have outlawed spaceframe, so that's why I did what I did, as I was building the car for stage rallying.
But, some observations on the mid mounted theme.............
To be truly mid mounted, you would need to use the Engine inline, and run like a Hewland or Renault 25 type trans axle behind it..................
If you are going to use a "Transverse" type set up, because the Puma wheels are right at the back you would in effect be creating a rear engined car, and I think this would end up too light at the front / too heavy at the rear.
However, whatever set up you decide, get that disc cutter out, start work and posting the pictures up..........................
Looking forward to seeing this evolve
Cheers Dave