[Guy Incognito]

I enjoyed it but the action is very itty bitty with the changing camera angles which makes it confusing, especially on such a big screen.

I must admit it seemed to be more about teh action scenes than any sort of plot, the ending was a bit weak, not quite - Then I woke up, but I will need to watch it again a few times to get to know it.

Also the product placement of Ford,Jag, Range Rover etc is just getting silly.

If you are a Bond fan then you will love it but I am sad to say i preferred the Bourne films. Casino Royale was brilliant.

Having said all that it does reveal more of Bonds character and how he ends up the person he is in later films. Reasonably well done but too much, Oh James you are cold, you want revemnge, can I trust you etc.

Be interesting to see what they do with the next Bond film.

[Sex Kitten]

ooh cant wait to see this

watched casino royale last night - fab

[Mork of Ork]

I think if you are a fan of the Bourne & Bond films you will like it but if you only like one of either you might be a bit disappointed.

I love classic Bond and am just re-reading some of the novels. I thought it was a bit like it wants to get rid of fans of "old Bond" to attract new cooler fans. Lack of Bond down gunsight at the start, no Monty Norman's Bond theme, no gadgets. The films have gone downhill since Cubby Broccoli died and Barbara took over.

Then again most people think my opinion on Bond to be crap as my favourite is On Her Majesty's Secret Service and I thought Lazenby was a great Bond, he is just like he is in the books.

But I digress, it was fun to watch and I would recommend going to see it but it isn't a proper Bond film imho. It's like a Bourne film with James Bond in it.

[Neil]

I saw it last night, and whilst the action was great as always, I was somewhat clueless as to what was going on! Complicated plot or what!

[R5CPD]

Saw it last weekend and really liked it more than I thought I would Especially enjoyed the opening sequence.

[Guy Incognito]

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I think it was the lack of plot that spoiled it. Bond films have always tried to capture the mood of their time and the environment is a hot potato hence Bond defeating a cartell who planned to pinch some water to sell at vast profit. Thaat was entirly incidental to Bond becoming more empathetic and learning not to kill first ask questions later. That was really what the film was about,

They did do gunsight bond at the end and i think the implication was that is the end f the backstory, next Bond will be back to ludicrous villians, bizarre henchmen, loads of willinng girls and huge sets to blow up at the end.

Rather than par core, epilepsy inducing editing and Bond/M deep and meaningfulls.

[mikey2cv]

The action was exciting but the plot was entirely dispensable. A few Bondisms crept back in, and I can see more coming in the next film. Overall, I found it very entertaining, but I do wish the miserable bugger would lighten up occasionally...

Btw, OHMSS is the best Bond by far, and Diana Rigg still the most gorgeous Bond girl.

[deeceebee]

Probably the most boring Bond film ever. My wife actually fell asleep at one point. Mikey, what you say about OHMSS is absolutely right, would have been interesting to see how George Lazenby would have developed if he had stayed on as I think he looked right in appearance for the part.

[mikey2cv]

I don't think OHMSS was the best because of GL, but, perhaps, in spite of him. Not that I don't like him, though. I wonder what a modern remake might be like. Certainly give Craig something to get his teeth into, but who would play the Diana Rigg role?

[Mork of Ork]

You could tell with OHMSS that they hadn't quite got the hang of how to replace the actor yet. For example in the pre credit sequence when he breaks the fourth wall and says "this never happened to the other fella"

I am glad to have finally found more OHMSS fans though, in my eyes it was closest to the novel, Bond was more like he is in the book too. A lot of people think they replaced Lazenby because they thought he was crap and begged Connery to come back, when in fact he was contracted for 6 or 7 films but pulled out himself because he thought Bond would be irrelevant in the 70's.

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[Guy Incognito]

Lazenby was quite bitter about it and comes across as arogant. The line "this never happened to the other fella" was written in deliberately as a nod to Connery.

I like OHMSS, was a good plot but Lazenby was just Connery with a mole and fitter. Far too similar in looks.

I thought Timothy Dalton was very good, a good blend of violence adn charm. He was more violent than Moore and funnier than Connery. I thought it a great shame he only did the two films as my favourite bond film is The Living Daylights. I guess everyone has a favourite film and Bond actor but they are all good in their own ways and that is why it still works, every actor brings something different, except Lazenby who tried to be Connery.

[Mork of Ork]

They learned then that they have to try and make the next new Bond different to Connery. So That is why the Moore films have a differnt tone to the Connery films, they even had him order a bourbon & soda to drink in Live and Let Die instead of a vodka martini.

I like Dalton too, the last Bond to smoke, I thought License to Kill was the better Dalton film though. I read somewhere that he wanted to be bond but thought he was a bit too old by the time they made Goldeneye.

The funny thing about Bond is most of the actors were asked to take on the role earlier but couldn't for some reason. Moore was supposed to be in OHMSS but was contracted to the Persuaders, Dalton was meant to be in Live and Let Die but thought he was to young so didn't accept & Brosnan was supposed to take over from Moore but was contracted to Remington Steele. Ah the funny world of showbiz eh?

[deeceebee]

One other thing about OHMSS, it had the best love song ever written. My wife had it played as our wedding song.

[shyann]

Although I didn't think much of George Lazenby as James Bond I really liked the film OHMSS. I especially liked the sking sequences. Sad at the end when Bond's wife [Diana Rigg] is killed by a bullet to her forehead. The song by Louis Armstrong 'We have all the time in the World' -A classic.
Another faviourite is 'You only live twice' - The volcano that was Smersh's base. I think it was one of the biggest sets in the Bond films. I also like to see the gadgets & car chases.
I've just seen Quantrum of Solace after watching Casino Royale again.I agree with most of the comments made re storyline, the showing of sponsored products like Ford, Sony & Omega. Daniel Craig plays the part well & makes action Bond, even though he doesn't smile or make many funny comments. I did enjoy the car chase [it was lacking in Casino Royale] there was no Q, & no real gadgets.He didn't get the girl in the end. What I'm unhappy with is that this James Bond isn't the confident charmer & fighter/killer [ in Casino R he just recieves his oo status] that we see & know in Goldfinger, Dr No etc. It hasn't got the right 'feel' to it. I feel that Casino Royale & Quantrum of Solace should be pre Goldfinger, Dr. No. Unfortunately that wouldn't work either.
I presume that the next Bond film will be more like what we expect, I suppose we'll find out that the Organisation is Smersh, & might even meet Blofield.

[Guy Incognito]

I think they were trying to get away from the humourous Bond and they deliberately stayed away from gadgets, just the token Aston scenes really in either film.

They had several nods to Bond films past and I am sure I will see more when I watch it again. I suspect the next film will be more similar in characetr to the classic films with large set and clever gadgets but they got such a slating for The invisible Aston (have they never noticed the exhaust? Harldy quiet!) and the obviosuly ludicrous parasurfing or whatever he did and the woefull super imposed or bluescreen work on it that they wanted to get back to basics and they have done that well. I think the less humour works well with Craig too, he clearly has a sense of humour but remember someone he loved had just been killed possibly to protect him, doubt any of us would be cracking jokes in that situation, after all, this film follows on the same day with hime being chased by Smiths goons so it must only be days since Vesper died.

[shyann]

Didn't Ian Flemming try to kill his character- James Bond off. I think that some of Bonds traits he didn't like & I think I read somewhere [I'm not sure] that Flemming wasn't too keen on Bonds betrayal in the cinema.
The only Bond film I absoutely hated was the original Casino Royale with David Niven, ? Woody Allen in- when it was done in a stuipid jokey manner

Ann

[Guy Incognito]

Yes, he did want to kill Bond off. He wanted Moore and was not happy with Connery at all.

[BOK]

Also the product placement of Ford,Jag, Range Rover etc is just getting silly.

from b3ta.com

[Guy Incognito]

Nice!