My Turn To Attempt The Challenging beating the rust, my progress thread
#21
Posted 13 April 2009 - 07:42 PM
My 2 year baby girl calls me "mörrimöykky" ( Picture ) because I was always looking one when I come back from garage. You will always hear the truth from kids...
Ford Puma Owners Club Finland (Facebook group)
(had: 1999 Puma, 1.7, 190 000km, still looking for next one...)
#22
Posted 14 April 2009 - 03:54 PM
Everytime I tried to reverse up my ramps they slid on the tarmac.
I have a set of these
any suggestions please on what I can use to stop them sliding on the tarmac?
#23
Posted 14 April 2009 - 04:18 PM
Then 2 pieces of wood pointing from there, lined up with the 2 car ramps and another plank on edge across the high ends of the ramps.
Difficult to explain, but easy to do.
I've sent you a PM.
The Haynes Fiesta Manual (3397) can answer a lot of your questions.
#24
Posted 14 April 2009 - 04:43 PM
Or add grip tape/rubber to the "rungs" so the tyres can get bite initially. Once you get a little bit on, then the car will pull itself up in theory.
#25
Posted 14 April 2009 - 04:48 PM
(I'm joking, for god sake don't do the above...lol)
#26
Posted 14 April 2009 - 05:05 PM
#27
Posted 14 April 2009 - 06:38 PM
#28
Posted 14 April 2009 - 07:41 PM
#29
Posted 16 April 2009 - 06:44 PM
ta da!!
my car
ramps
bracing plank
fence post
bracing plank
gary's wheel
repeated on each side
OK, not that impressive. Got up on the ramps, made an H frame with the rear wheels on Gary's car, decided not to use the garage door. This worked really well
I used my garden bottle to mix the degreaser at approx 5-10% concentration.
This worked quite quickly on the underside, I decided to spray the whole underside to get a rough start to remove the worst. Took 3 futher spray bottles of clean water to rinse off. I did not use a brush or anything at this stage, just wanted to get rid of the inital and worst muck, which it appears to have done.
There is little to no rust that I could see at this stage on the front of the underside (excluding suspension/atms etc.) this area has lots of underseal
Down side our tarmac driveway on rinsing down has some holes in it, what I can't work out is if it is the degreaser (for which there was no tarmac warning/caution) or if the holes are from the crap it shifted off from the underside.
I am now worried that I did not rinse my car off well enough given the holes in the drive, time will tell when it is on the ramps again tomorrow.
#30
Posted 17 April 2009 - 11:36 AM
Hoping the weather clears for this afternoon so I can do a little bit more, and then tomorrow too. The further forward underneath the dirtier the car was. I have assuem that given the underside does get wet when you drive through puddles that the petrol tank electrical conector is weather proof (obviously I wont dunk it in a bucket) but should withstand a washing underneath. It started fine after yestdays cleaning to put it away again in the evening to get most from air drying outside.
I made a start
#31
Posted 17 April 2009 - 11:44 AM
It should be, because I have washed my Puma several times on automatic car wash with underside washing. No problems ever, so don't worry.
Your Puma's back box looks bit better than mine was at the beginning of the rust works.
Ford Puma Owners Club Finland (Facebook group)
(had: 1999 Puma, 1.7, 190 000km, still looking for next one...)
#32
Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:42 PM
when your ready to refit fuel tank etc then just check the connectors and rubber for wear.
#33
Posted 18 April 2009 - 10:56 AM
#34
Posted 18 April 2009 - 04:51 PM
Who needs sit ups! Talk about using the core muscles to hold yourself in the weird angles needed in order to not stick ones head in the glop on the floor
I have got the tank clean and the floor facing seam along the edge (where visible).
With the recess behind the petrol filter I assume that this area can really only be done with the tank out?
As the tank is planned to be coming out in under three weeks should I be spraying the bolts I can see and electrical connector with a WD 40 like product now do you think please?
Although the floor pan is filthy I hope it will be fairly straight forward as generally no nooks and crankies so easier to use a brush on rub in the degreaser/cleaner.
And yep Ford Direct did right royally overspray every where!
#35
Posted 18 April 2009 - 08:47 PM
Are you planning on eventually dropping the rear beam for refurbishment???
remember the bit under the rear beam mounts needs treating. The rear of the floorpan in that area is almost identical on mk3 fiestas to mk4's (and hence pumas) and on my old fiesta there was a fair bit of corrosion right up close to the rear beam mounts and it caused a crack in the metal so had to be all ground out and welded up. Obviously that car had 7 years more wear and a lot less care than your car, but worth considering. if your on axle stands, with wheels off you can undo rear beam bolts (8 total) and lower rear beam to treat underneath. Just support beam in middle with trolley jack or blocks of wood etc.
Its the same for the suspension turrets front and rear and although ive yet to see them rust through at the rears on a puma (you get holes on mk 3 and 3.5 fiestas by rear top mounts!! ), it is worth a good clean out and real good sealing in that area and the best way to do that is drop rear beam out. You dont have to totally remove beam, just lower enough to remove rear shocker for access.
#36
Posted 18 April 2009 - 08:56 PM
not quite got the confidence for that yet, just coming to terms with being partially under the car
may do that then next year, or later on this summer, that might be a job for getting help with as with the petrol tank area
#37
Posted 18 April 2009 - 09:30 PM
The workout is a bonus too
It's comforting to see the bottom of an FRP that looks to be in a similar condition to mine corrosion wise... and the overspray.
Owner of FRP #444
#38
Posted 18 April 2009 - 09:47 PM
#39
Posted 18 April 2009 - 09:50 PM
Owner of FRP #444
#40
Posted 18 April 2009 - 09:59 PM
Same when removing rear dampers, you dont need to lower it much to get the damper bottom eye out of the beam.