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Putting some 3-points in #245, and my question is.......
Where do tou put the eye bolts in the centre of the car?
Normally on a rally car we just drill the transmission tunnel and weld plate on the outside and screw them in. I dont really want to drill the tunnel, so has anyone fixed them elsewhere?
On the bolt that holds the seat belt buckle? or to fit in the small space around here how about bolting in some 4mm sheel plate drilled for the harrness.
Other fixing points are easy.....
Ta
Chris
Harness mounting points in FRP
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 10:57 AM
Christophe-lamb-chop
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 12:13 PM
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Putting some 3-points in #245, and my question is.......
Where do tou put the eye bolts in the centre of the car?
Normally on a rally car we just drill the transmission tunnel and weld plate on the outside and screw them in. I dont really want to drill the tunnel, so has anyone fixed them elsewhere?
On the bolt that holds the seat belt buckle? or to fit in the small space around here how about bolting in some 4mm sheel plate drilled for the harrness.
Other fixing points are easy.....
Ta
Chris
Where do tou put the eye bolts in the centre of the car?
Normally on a rally car we just drill the transmission tunnel and weld plate on the outside and screw them in. I dont really want to drill the tunnel, so has anyone fixed them elsewhere?
On the bolt that holds the seat belt buckle? or to fit in the small space around here how about bolting in some 4mm sheel plate drilled for the harrness.
Other fixing points are easy.....
Ta
Chris
Chris,
A few of us run Scroth (supplied by Safety Devices) three point harness, which use an adaptor to mount off the rear passenger seat belt plug attachment point.
This seems to work well.
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 12:17 PM
What about the mounting point on your left (driver's seat) or right? (passenger seat)
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Cheers
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 12:27 PM
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What about the mounting point on your left (driver's seat) or right? (passenger seat)
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Two locations I have seen used, either sandwiched inbetween the pretensioner and it's mount plate, or bolted to either one of the pair of seat mount bolts beside the transmission tunnel.
Disclaimer - As with all safety critical things, these are only suggestions and any final decision should rest with you, not on any advice offered. :wink:
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 12:32 PM
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What about the mounting point on your left (driver's seat) or right? (passenger seat)
Cheers
Cheers
Two locations I have seen used, either sandwiched inbetween the pretensioner and it's mount plate, or bolted to either one of the pair of seat mount bolts beside the transmission tunnel.
Disclaimer - As with all safety critical things, these are only suggestions and any final decision should rest with you, not on any advice offered. :wink:
Ta for that, didn't really want to go drilling the shell, think the rails are the best bet. And understand your disclaimer.
Think when I make some new rails up I'll weld in an eye bolt as well.
Thanks
Chris
BTW using Sabelt 3-pointers with 3" shoulder and 2" waist straps, aircraft release with Alloy adjusters. In blue of course!!!
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:10 PM
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BTW using Sabelt 3-pointers with 3" shoulder and 2" waist straps, aircraft release with Alloy adjusters. In blue of course!!!
Are aircraft-style release mechanisms road legal?
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:16 PM
I didn't think they were, plus a nightmare to do up everytime you get in the car, Rob never used his IIRC!
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:17 PM
The law states that the belt must be "E" marked... std belts are, most rally style belts are not ('FIA' approval is not the same as European approval - even though FIA is probably better...).
To remain legal you have to retain the std belts... though the insurance compny might be inetretsted to know you have installed (and probably using) non E marked belts...
To remain legal you have to retain the std belts... though the insurance compny might be inetretsted to know you have installed (and probably using) non E marked belts...
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Stop being spoon fed and GOOGLE it!
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:18 PM
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BTW using Sabelt 3-pointers with 3" shoulder and 2" waist straps, aircraft release with Alloy adjusters. In blue of course!!!
Are aircraft-style release mechanisms road legal?
Yes and no.
They will be because the original belts will be left in. According to the MOT they are not, although I have never had a rally car fail and MOT for aircraft type belts.
If you have a look in the online blue (blur) book on the MSA's website it isn't excatly explicit. Will have a look this eve, and post up the definative answer for your info. Think it's www.msa.org.uk
Chris
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:26 PM
something like that yeah....
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:47 PM
Did somebody say mounting......
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:49 PM
lol!!
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:51 PM
At least you think I'm funny....................as well as me that is...
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:54 PM
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Did somebody say mounting......
That'll be me......
They are for tying down un-sespecting people.... :wink:
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:55 PM
Hmmmm sounds goooood............
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 01:57 PM
oh, was i asking........
you'll have to try harder than that, I'm very picky :wink:
you'll have to try harder than that, I'm very picky :wink:
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 02:20 PM
Well from that pm you just sent me I would say you were.........pmsl
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 02:22 PM
Damn and blast you.....lol
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Posted 01 November 2004 - 10:41 PM
my harnesses passed scrutineering and an MOT ... what the heck thought I would drop that one in 
lurve the Scroth ones 
in red of course but would really fancy that switch thingy that Rover insalled with them in the SV to manually force lock them 
lurve the Scroth ones
in red of course
but would really fancy that switch thingy that Rover insalled with them in the SV to manually force lock them
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