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How Hard Do You Drive Your Puma? Rpm

#1 User is offline   PumaG 

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 06:26 PM

Just curious to see how hard (or soft) I run mine in comparison.

Dont know if i maybe run it a bit hard? :derr:

General run around use: Change gear around 3,000 rpm

Making progress: between 3,000 and 4,000

And the occasional burst on a spirited drive: 5,000 rpm

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 06:31 PM

Ive driven mine quite hard a few times, ive hit the limiter a few times in each gear bar 5th :P



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Posted 18 April 2010 - 06:33 PM

Normally change up around 3k, seldom over 4k, but when I do go over 4k, it is probably close to 7k.
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Posted 18 April 2010 - 06:49 PM

I get around 19 MPG and the car has been onto the limiter in all the gears.
Thats 7250rpm in a FRP ;)
Only on private roads and trackdays of course.

It has to be properly hot before I go and play though, NEVER on a cold engine.
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Posted 18 April 2010 - 07:12 PM

I don't think i've ever hit the limiter!
I bought my Puma as a cheaper alternative to my previous cars.
I've never thought of it as something to make progress in. Most gearchanges are aaround 2 and a bit k.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 07:18 PM

I drive much the same as you Grant, but give the Kat some beans now and again, to blow the crud out of the system, yesterdays Bucks meet was great for this, Kat runs a treat now.
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Posted 18 April 2010 - 08:53 PM

Much the same as Grant for me. Never taken it past 6,000 rpm , but isn't maximum torque achieved at 5,750 ?

For fun i like to hold it in 2nd gear for a few seconds at about 3,250 then floor it . Same goes for 3rd , great 40 -70mph ( approx ) for overtaking !

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 09:00 PM

Im the same as Dogsbody, the FRP gets driven hard but only once its warmed up. It is a weekend car so I make the most of it when I have the chance to drive it.
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Posted 18 April 2010 - 09:31 PM

My way of looking at it has always been as long as you keep oil levels topped up and its not from cold, giving it a bit of beans around some lanes will never hurt it.
tend to keep be quite nice to it round town, pot holes are a nightmare round Kent at the mo and changing up just under 3000 and sit at about 70 mph on the motorway.

In the Puma my driving style has changed to how i used to be in my Nova* , I was an all out animal using power, lift off over steer and the LSD to get me round corners in the most ridiculous ways i could muster. Now in the puma with the down scale in power and no diff its all about smooth lines and knowing the car is going to do what you want it to, its so predictable. Since Iv taken off the 17" wheels and gone for 15" with T1Rs its just a joy to drive. So much so my girlfriend who gave me the car when she got an Audi TT some times borrows it because its more fun.

I think the Puma will have to see a bit of track action at some point but not for a while. Iv spent too much time getting him back up to scratch to go out and put it in kitty litter. My 'win it or bin it' approach is no way to keep my Puma as daily driver.




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Posted 18 April 2010 - 09:50 PM

View Postbaconjazz, on 18 April 2010 - 08:53 PM, said:

Much the same as Grant for me. Never taken it past 6,000 rpm , but isn't maximum torque achieved at 5,750?


Maximum revs are achieved when the limiter kicks in.

Zetecs love to rev.
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 06:02 AM

hes on about torque not revs

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 06:18 PM

View Postbaconjazz, on 18 April 2010 - 08:53 PM, said:

Much the same as Grant for me. Never taken it past 6,000 rpm , but isn't maximum torque achieved at 5,750 ?

For fun i like to hold it in 2nd gear for a few seconds at about 3,250 then floor it . Same goes for 3rd , great 40 -70mph ( approx ) for overtaking !


Hi, I checked a 1999 Puma brochure (edition 1), it shows the following data:

1.7 engine:
Maximum Power: 125PS at 6300 rpm
Maximum Torque: 157Nm at 4500 rpm

1.4 engine:
Maximum Power: 90PS at 5500 rpm
Maximum Torque: 125Nm at 4500 rpm
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 06:24 PM

Pretty hard as the FRP isn't my daily driver. My favourite game is taking it very near to the rev limiter in second gear, lifting off, then listening to the massive pops and bangs from the exhaust!
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Posted 20 April 2010 - 09:11 AM

Dependas what mood i'm in really
Sometimes i'll drive it economically changing gear around 3000 RPM

and other times, more the majority lol drive it quite hard bounced it off the limiter in jus about every gear tbh :woot2:
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Posted 20 April 2010 - 10:46 AM

As I'm still quite new to my Kat I'm still driving quite carefully lol, I don't think I've been above 4000 revs so far, and usually change gear at about 3000. Most of my journeys are in traffic so its not often I get to open up the engine. I got him on some dual carriageways at the weekend and got him up to about 70mph, didn't actually see the revs though :)


I worked out my mpg yesterday, am averaging about 30 which is probably about right for all the cold starts and stop/start traffic I spend most of my time in !

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 10:57 AM

For some reason, I seem to grow horns as soon as i sit behind the wheel, and I find it very difficult not to drive like i'm the stig or something :roflmao:

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 03:28 PM

View PostNeil, on 19 April 2010 - 06:24 PM, said:

Pretty hard as the FRP isn't my daily driver. My favourite game is taking it very near to the rev limiter in second gear, lifting off, then listening to the massive pops and bangs from the exhaust!



aye, do this all the time in my 1.4 :P

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 03:58 PM

Ive taken mine to about 6 and a half in 2nd and 3rd, 3rd gets me to 70 mph when I'm giving it beans.  i love my car because its only a 1.4 but it surprises people who've got bigger engines sometimes :D  But only when warm!
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Posted 20 April 2010 - 04:07 PM

i drive my frp and track puma hard, its what they were made for. yamaha wouldnt have tuned the engine for revs if it didnt like doing it.

i only drive the frp every couple of weeks and when i do it gets full revs in most gears when having a spirited drive, cant see the point of using all 5 gears to get upto 80 entering a motorway when i can do it in 3 and then change upto 5th ;) i hate changing at anything less than 5000 rpm in the frp it just doesnt seem to like it. and hasnt missed a beat in 4 years touch wood.

its great watching the frp rev off the clock and go on too 7250 before the rev limiter.

the frp pulls really hard after 6000 rpm and that last 1200 revs is a great engine note :D



my track puma gets driven hard as well and revs to over 6000 rpm all the time. the rev limiter is set at 6750 rpm this is a limiter for a reason and revving it too 6000 plus will do the engine no harm at all, its what it was made for and developed for. the variable cam timing doesnt even kick in till 3500 rpm or there abouts and you wont experience full power till about 6000 rpm

give your puma some stick, otherwise by a car with a non revvy engine and potter about everywhere.
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Posted 20 April 2010 - 04:27 PM

modern engines are test bedded before being implemented sat on the rev limiter for days anyway before going into production so hitting the limiter every now and again, or even everytime wont do much harm

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